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		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I write a letter to a reader answering his questions about the burning of the bosom and of my experience at Ricks College <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/lettertoareader/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-542" title="ricksdevotional" src="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ricksdevotional-150x150.jpg" alt="ricksdevotional" width="150" height="150" />This is going to be a little difficult to write because it is both a sacred and a sensitive subject.  It is sacred because it involves personal revelation that is intended to be just that – personal.  It is sensitive because I know from many years of experience and dialog with other members of the church that not everyone feels the same way or has had the same experiences I have had with the Holy Ghost and in particular, the feeling of the <a title="Burning of the bosom" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/burning-of-the-bosom-feelings-from-god/">burning of the bosom</a> that I have experienced.</p>
<p>You asked if I thought if everyone can experience or feel the burning of the bosom.  I like <a title="Ensign Mar 97" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=4273dbdcc370c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">what Elder Oaks had to say</a> about that: “What does a ‘burning in the bosom’ mean? Does it need to be a feeling of caloric heat, like the burning produced by combustion? If that is the meaning, I have never had a burning in the bosom. Surely, the word ‘burning’ in this scripture signifies a feeling of comfort and serenity. That is the witness many receive. That is the way revelation works.”</p>
<p><strong>Burning of the bosom</strong></p>
<p>Elder <a title="Ensign May 76" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=688efd758096b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">S. Dilworth Young said</a>, “It is a feeling which cannot be described, but the nearest word we have is ‘burn’ or ‘burning.’ Accompanying this always is a feeling of peace, a further witness that what one heard is right. Once one recognizes this burning, this feeling, this peace, one need never be drawn astray in his daily life or in the guidance he may receive.”  Elder Romney taught this many times – that we can make life’s decisions correctly using instructions in <a title="D&amp;C 9:8-9" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/9/8-9#8">D&amp;C 9:8-9</a>.</p>
<p><a title="Ensign Nov 94" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=3afd3ff73058b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">Elder Packer taught</a>, “This burning in the bosom is not purely a physical sensation. It is more like a warm light shining within your being.”  <a title="Ensign April 89" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=670f27cd3f37b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">Another apostle said</a>, “As I have traveled throughout the Church, I’ve found relatively few people who have experienced a burning of the bosom. In fact, I’ve had many people tell me that they’ve become frustrated because they have never experienced that feeling even though they have prayed or fasted for long periods of time.”</p>
<p><strong>Some do feel the burning</strong></p>
<p>So, from both personal experience and from what we have been taught by Apostles and Prophets, yes, we can and many do feel the burning of the bosom at various times in their lives.  But for many faithful members, and perhaps most, the burning of the bosom is either very rare or non-existent.  I guess it all depends on how you describe it or what you expect.  If Elder Oaks can say that he has never felt caloric heat, like the burning produced by combustion then I accept that.</p>
<p>I guess I am the exception and can say without a doubt that I do often feel a warm sensation in the area of my chest when I am engaged in something that I know pleases the Lord.  In contrast, I have felt a cold feeling or absence of warmth in that same general region of my chest many times in my life when I have engaged in actions or even thoughts that offended the spirit.  For me it is a very real and discernable sensation that has blessed me throughout my life since I was a youth.</p>
<p><strong>Ricks College</strong></p>
<p>You asked about <a title="Revelation at Ricks" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/a-different-kind-of-religious-education/">my experience at Ricks College</a> in regards to receiving an answer to prayer.  This was not my first experience with revelation, nor was it the last, but it was one of the most powerful and tangible up to that point in my life.  It has also been one of the most memorable and influential spiritual experiences to come upon me even though it occurred over 35 years ago.  As I noted, it is sacred, but I do feel it is appropriate to share with you since you have asked.</p>
<p>I was 17 years old at the time.  It was in the Fall of 1974.  My family joined the Church in 1962 when I was five so I feel that I grew up as a member, attending Primary, Sunday School, MIA and Seminary.  However, during my Senior year of High School, there was about a six to eight month period of time that I hung with the wrong kind of friends and did not attend church.  In short, I had some repenting to do and felt a strong desire to know my standing before the Lord.</p>
<p><strong>Apostolic invitation</strong></p>
<p>Early in the Fall of 1974, I attended an assembly at Ricks College, now <a title="BYU Idaho" href="http://www.byui.edu/">BYU Idaho</a>, in which I distinctly remember <a title="President Eyring" href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/background-information/leader-biographies/president-henry-b-eyring">President Eyring</a> introducing <a title="LeGrand Richards" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeGrand_Richards">Elder LeGrand Richards</a> as our devotional speaker.  I had heard Elder Richards speak in General Conference before but I had never been in the same meeting with him in which I could feel his spirit and sense his enthusiasm for the gospel.  Something in me caused me to sit still and pay careful attention to what he was saying.</p>
<p>As he taught the gospel and bore fervent testimony of the work of the Lord I remember thinking to myself how much I would like to be able to speak with the power, confidence and enthusiasm that he had.  A distinct impression came over me, and I attribute this to the whisperings of the spirit, that I could have that same witness that Elder Richards had and that I could teach like that someday if I would pay the price of study, devotion, obedience and especially of intense prayer.</p>
<p><strong>Led by the Lord</strong></p>
<p>As I left the devotional assembly I pondered the message I had felt from the spirit long and hard.  Like Joseph said, I reflected upon it again and again.  Never had anything penetrated my heart so deeply.  I felt drawn to the possibility that I could know what Elder Richards knew and that I could receive it in the way he testified – through humble prayer and revelation from the Lord.  I wanted to know what the Lord thought of my efforts to repent thus far in leaving my sins behind.</p>
<p>On Friday, I determined that I was going to put the promise to the test.  My roommate was gone for the evening to a dance so I knew I would have a few hours alone to talk to the Lord in prayer.  I felt <a title="3 Ne 19:20" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/19/24#24">filled with desire</a> as I began my efforts and was impressed that the words flowed so easily.  It was clear to me that the spirit was directing my thoughts and helping me to express myself.  I am confident that I went on for a solid hour reviewing my life with the Lord as I prayed aloud.</p>
<p><strong>Painful confession</strong></p>
<p>The second hour was not so easy.  In fact, it became very difficult to confess my sins of the year that had passed and to have revealed to me the effects my actions had upon myself and on others.  Tears flowed as I saw how I had hurt myself and others and again, the spirit impressed me how the Lord felt about my sadness and the misery through which I had passed.  I felt no judgment or condemnation, only that the Lord was pained because of my pain and that he wanted to heal me.</p>
<p>Finally, in the third hour, I was in agony as I pled with the Lord to forgive me and to restore to me the innocence and happiness I had once felt before the days of my rebellion.  I asked again and again for relief.  I wanted to know that I had been forgiven and that I would yet be able to make something of my life in spite of the sin and disobedience of earlier days.  I pleaded and begged for a witness or a manifestation of the Lord’s love for me and that I had been forgiven.</p>
<p><strong>Opposition is real</strong></p>
<p>It was towards the end of the third hour that I saw clearly in my mind’s eye the reality of the existence of unclean and <a title="Evil Spirits" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/speak-of-the-devil/">evil spirits</a>.  As I recalled moments of my sinful behavior, the Lord showed to me that I was not alone, that there were beings from the unseen world participating with me in my sin.  I was appalled at the scenes I was recalling and abhorred the fact that the adversary had used me during those moments.  My pain was real and I was suffering terribly.</p>
<p>Just as I was about to give up in despair that I would receive no relief from my torment and just as I had about decided that my emotional outpouring of grief and despair were in vain, I realized that something unusual was happening about and within me.  I began to sit very still and to pay close attention to what I was feeling or rather sensing.  A tangible feeling of peace came over me and a feeling of happiness, almost euphoria entered into my heart and mind.  It was powerful!</p>
<p><strong>Revelatory experience</strong></p>
<p>Warmth filled my being almost from head to toe.  I did not see, but I sensed light all around and within me.  Now this is the most difficult and personal part to describe of what I experienced.  I did not see anything with my eyes.  I did not hear anything with my ears.  But I knew that I was not alone at that moment.  I began to hear words, no, full sentences in my mind and saw myself at some future time in my life, participating in sacred and powerful events related to the gospel.</p>
<p>I cannot adequately describe what I saw in my mind’s eye and heard in my heart, but I will tell you that I sat transfixed for what seemed like another hour as scene after potential scene of my life was revealed to me.  I both saw and heard myself speaking and teaching the gospel with the same kind of confidence that I had seen in Elder Richards earlier in that week.  I knew as I was seeing this that it was not guaranteed, but was conditional upon my willingness to prepare for it.</p>
<p><strong>Everything changed</strong></p>
<p>That’s why I say that from then on, everything changed.  I knew that I would soon be going <a title="My mission" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-teaching-and-testifying-missionary/">on a mission</a>.  I knew I would <a title="My Temple Marriage" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-sacred-power-of-marriage/">marry in the temple</a>.  I knew that I would accept and serve faithfully in many callings over the years.  I knew I would <a title="Bishopric Meetings" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/bishopric-meetings/">serve in a leadership capacity</a> in my local ward and stake.  I saw myself doing all these things and especially saw myself teaching and speaking from the pulpit, hearing specific things that I would be saying and teaching.  It was amazing to me.</p>
<p>Now, as I said this is personal and sacred.  One who is not familiar with the revelatory process could describe this as the frenzies of a deranged mind, brought on by emotional distress over the imagined need to repent for what I considered sins.  Anyone can say what they like, but it was real to me and nobody will ever be able to take away this experience that I still hold sacred.  The feelings that accompanied this revelatory experience are indescribable but filled me with joy.</p>
<p><strong>Summary and conclusion</strong></p>
<p>Yes, what I experienced that night at Ricks College so long ago was much more than a burning of the bosom.  It was a tangible immersion in the spirit.  I felt like I was baptized by fire and yet I knew at the same time that I had so much more to do to qualify for a real born again experience.  It was the beginning of a long path to realize the dream of being able to teach and speak like I had seen demonstrated to me by an Apostle of the Lord.  I still have a long, long ways to go.</p>
<p>Thanks for asking me to share this with you.  I think I would like to post it on my blog.  I haven’t felt inspired to write much there lately but this experience might do some good for someone else.  I hope I have answered your questions about the burning of the bosom and about the reality of the revelatory process.  I am a personal witness that it is real.  The Lord answers prayer and will give to us what we ask for in faith, if it is something that we need and will be for our good.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the priesthood session of the April 2003 General Conference, President Hinckley delivered a landmark address on the subject of loyalty.   In his remarks he said, “Each of us has to face the truth of the matter—either the church is &#8230; <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/there-is-no-middle-ground/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-398" title="preshinckley" src="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/preshinckley-150x150.jpg" alt="preshinckley" width="150" height="150" />In the <a title="Priesthood" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Priesthood">priesthood</a> session of the <a title="April 2003 General Conference" href="http://lds.org/conference/sessions/display/0,5239,23-1-353,00.html">April 2003</a> <a title="General Conference" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/General_Conference">General Conference</a>, <a title="President Hinckley" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Gordon_B._Hinckley">President Hinckley</a> delivered a landmark address on the subject of <a title="Loyalty" href="http://lds.org/conference/talk/display/0,5232,23-1-353-21,00.html">loyalty</a>.   In his remarks he said, “Each of us has to face the truth of the matter—either the church is true, or it is a fraud.  <strong><em>There is no middle ground</em></strong>.  It is the Church and <a title="Kingdom of God" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Kingdom_of_God">kingdom of God</a> or it is nothing.”</p>
<p>An earlier prophet, <a title="Joseph Fielding Smith" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Joseph_Fielding_Smith">Joseph Fielding Smith</a> wrote something similar in the <a title="Doctrines of Salvation" href="http://deseretbook.com/store/product/5020291">Doctrines of Salvation:</a> “<a title="Mormonism" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Mormonism">Mormonism</a>, as it is called, must stand on the story of <a title="Joseph Smith" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Joseph_Smith">Joseph Smith</a>.  He was either a <a title="Mormon Prophet" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Prophet">prophet of God</a>, divinely called, properly appointed and commissioned, or he was one of the biggest frauds this world has ever seen.  <strong><em>There is no middle ground</em></strong>.”</p>
<p><strong>There can be no gray area</strong></p>
<p>Referring to the historical events of the area around <a title="Palmyra" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Palmyra">Palmyra</a>, New York, President Hinckley said: “They either happened or they did not. There can be no gray area, <strong><em>no middle ground</em></strong>.”   In a similar manner, Apostle <a title="Joseph B Wirthlin" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Joseph_B._Wirthlin">Joseph B. Wirthlin</a> said, “Joseph Smith must be accepted either as a prophet of God or else as a charlatan of the first order.”</p>
<p><a title="President Benson" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Ezra_Taft_Benson">President Benson</a> endorsed this all or nothing view.  He said, “Just as the arch crumbles if the keystone is removed, so does all the Church stand or fall with the truthfulness of the <a title="Book of Mormon" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Book_of_Mormon">Book of Mormon</a>…if it can be discredited, the Prophet Joseph Smith goes with it. So does our claim to <a title="Priesthood Keys" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Keys_of_the_Priesthood">priesthood keys</a>, and <a title="Revelation" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Revelation">revelation</a>, and the <a title="Restoration" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Restoration">restored Church</a>.”</p>
<p><strong>They were all wrong</strong></p>
<p>Such black and white statements go all the way back to the beginnings of the <a title="LDS Church" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints">LDS church</a>.  When the prophet Joseph asked God <a title="JS-H 1:18-19" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/18-19#18">which church he should join</a>, he “was answered that I must join none of them, for <strong><em>they were all wrong</em></strong>.”  If all the churches of Joseph’s day were wrong, what does that say about the numerous churches of our day?</p>
<p>The Lord later said to Joseph in <a title="D&amp;C 1:29-30" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/1/29-30#29">Section one</a> of the <a title="Doctrine and Covenants" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Doctrine_and_Covenants">Doctrine and Covenants</a> that the church Joseph organized was “the <strong><em>only true and living church</em></strong> upon the face of the whole earth.”  If you look, you can find dozens of similar statements by prophets and apostles throughout the history of our church, all very bold in their declarations.</p>
<p><strong>Divisive and exclusivist</strong></p>
<p>Of course, statements like these are labeled divisive and exclusivist by many people outside our church, but also, increasingly by members on the fringe of the church, also known as the <a title="DAMU" href="http://mormonism.suite101.com/article.cfm/disaffected_mormon_underground">disaffected Mormon underground</a>.  The DAMU is nothing new.  There have been <a title="Cultural Mormon" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Mormon">cultural Mormons</a> and <a title="Jack Mormon" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Mormon">Jack Mormons</a> throughout the history of our church.</p>
<p>Of all the objections to the church that I have encountered over the past few years I have been blogging, this one seems to be the most common and the most offensive.  For some, it is an extremely difficult proposition to accept this black or white, all or nothing approach to <a title="Truth in Religion" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Truth">truth in religion</a>.  I have spent considerable time pondering why this is so.</p>
<p><strong>Good and truth in all religions</strong></p>
<p>Joseph Smith taught that we accept truth from whatever source it may come.  <a title="Joseph F. Smith" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Joseph_F._Smith">Joseph F. Smith</a> said, “We are willing to <a title="Gospel Doctrine, p.1" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=66a205481ae6b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">receive all truth, from whatever source</a> it may come; for truth will stand, truth will endure…”  Modern prophets have said that there is much good and truth in all churches and religions.  This statement doesn’t seem too limiting.</p>
<p>President Hinckley: “We recognize the <a title="Good in all churches" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=c069dbdcc370c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">good in all churches</a>. We recognize the value of religion generally. We say to everyone: live the teachings which you have received from your church. We invite you to come and learn from us, to see if we can <em><strong>add to those teachings</strong></em> and enhance your life and your understanding of things sacred and divine.”</p>
<p><strong>Something unique to add</strong></p>
<p>What can the LDS faith add that is unique and will bless the lives of those who accept its teachings?  The most unique thing we offer can be found in the <a title="Mormon temples" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Mormon_Temples">temples</a>.  It is the <a title="Sealing Power" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Sealing#Sealing_Power">sealing power</a> that is exercised to unite families in an eternal bond that will remain in effect after this life is over.  That is an amazing claim that no other church can make.</p>
<p>We teach that the sealing power is a part of the <a title="Priesthood Authority" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Priesthood_Authority">priesthood authority</a> that we claim was delivered to Joseph Smith via angelic messengers.  I don’t know of any other church that asserts that <a title="Angels" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Angels">angels</a> have come and ordained their leaders or conferred upon them <a title="Section 110" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/110">keys and powers</a> that will <a title="Matt 16:19" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/16/19#19">bind on earth and in heaven</a>.  That is a fantastic declaration!</p>
<p><strong>Our eternal nature</strong></p>
<p>The older I get, the more important that claim becomes to me.  If I know nothing else, I know that there is a <a title="Spirit body" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Spirit_Body">spiritual side</a> of my existence.  I have had too many experiences of a spiritual nature that have helped me to understand this truth.  Others may claim that there is nothing more to man than skin, muscle and bones, but I believe differently.</p>
<p>Because of that very basic and core fundamental belief about myself, I am concerned about what my <a title="Purpose of life" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Purpose_of_Life">purpose is in life</a> and <a title="Spirit world" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Spirit_World">what happens after death</a>.  I am so grateful to be a part of a community of faith, a church that believes as I do that life is eternal and that what we do with our lives will have a significant impact on the quality of life hereafter.</p>
<p><strong>Importance of the temples</strong></p>
<p>That belief in <a title="John 17:2-3" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/john/17/2-3#2">life eternal</a> is not unique, but the idea that we can do something to ensure that the relationships we enjoy here continue in the hereafter is very unique indeed.  I have had dialog with visitors to my blog who claim that God would never be so mean as to separate a loving couple who cherished and served each other all their mortal lives.</p>
<p>I’m not going to point you to any <a title="Celestial marriage" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Celestial_marriage">statements from church leaders</a> that teach otherwise but I will say this: before you go making claims about how God should behave, you might want to be absolutely sure of what God has said on the subject.  I can’t think of anything about which I would want to be surer.  My eternal happiness depends on it.</p>
<p><strong>Book of Mormon is still the key</strong></p>
<p>Back to the point of the essay and why prophets have said that there can be <em><strong>no middle ground</strong></em> when it comes to things like authority and revelation and Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon.  My mother, who was a convert to the church, once said to me that as an investigator, she could accept everything about it except the <a title="Book of Mormon" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Book_of_Mormon">Book of Mormon</a>.</p>
<p>It wasn’t until much later in life when she took an <a title="Institute" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Institute">Institute</a> class on the subject that she really began to understand just how important it is to our claims of divine origin.  I love the fact that we do not have <a title="Gold Plates" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Gold_Plates">the plates</a> to “prove” the historicity of the book.  Prophets have taught that the Book of Mormon is a great sifter of those who are honest in heart.</p>
<p><strong>The power of a divine witness</strong></p>
<p>I know there are those who have said that they have tried and failed to obtain a witness of the veracity of the Book of Mormon.  I have had dialog with people both inside and outside the church who have struggled with this.  I confess that I cannot offer a perfect empathy because <a title="Personal Revelation" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/a-call-for-more-personal-revelation/">I received a witness</a> of the truthfulness of the book many years ago.</p>
<p>Because of that divine manifestation to me, not just once but <a title="Testimony at Rick's College" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/a-different-kind-of-religious-education/">on several occasions</a>, I have never doubted the Book of Mormon, or the claims of the prophet Joseph Smith. I understand why the prophets have said that the Book of Mormon is the <a title="Keystone of our religion" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=50db94bf3938b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">keystone of our religion</a> and why our claims of divinity rest upon the veracity of that book.  I also agree with the statement that the <a title="Strength of members" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=18659209df38b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">strength of this church is in the testimony</a> of each member.</p>
<p><strong>The promise of personal revelation</strong></p>
<p>One of my evangelical visitors once called this security that I feel, <a title="Burning of the bosom" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/burning-of-the-bosom-feelings-from-god/">the Mormon bubble</a>.  He says it is not logical but it makes perfect sense to me.  You can throw out all kinds of arguments about the <a title="Book of Abraham" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/objections-to-the-book-of-abraham/">Book of Abraham</a>, <a title="Plural wives of Joseph" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-plural-wives-of-joseph-smith/">Polyandry</a>, <a title="Post Manifesto polygamy" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/no-such-thing-as-mormon-fundamentalism/">Post-manifesto plural marriage</a>, the <a title="Kinderhook plates" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Kinderhook_plates">Kinderhook Plates</a> or any one a few dozen other things that can be found on the Internet.</p>
<p>None of them bothered me when I first learned about them and none of them do now.  I have written <a title="General Authority subjects" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/general-authority-training-advanced-subjects/">essays on dozens of these objections</a> and have come to the conclusion that they really aren’t the real problem with why people doubt or leave the church.  In my opinion, those who struggle with these doubts have not received <a title="Apostasy" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Apostate">personal revelation</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Summary and conclusion</strong></p>
<p>I know that a <a title="Testimony" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Testimony">testimony</a> is a very sacred and personal subject.  I also know that making a generalization like I just did will bring all kinds of protests.  But I stand by it as truth.  If a man has received a <a title="Gift of the Holy Ghost" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Gift_of_the_Holy_Ghost">witness from God</a> that the Book of Mormon is true then God has a responsibility to help that man as he goes through the ensuing <a title="Trials" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Trials">trials</a> of that testimony.</p>
<p>I know that God will help the honest in heart keep their testimonies strong and vibrant.  If we <a title="Gospel Study" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Bible_Study">study</a> we are going to find out things that will test our witness.  We will then have the opportunity to strengthen and deepen it.  That’s what opposition is for.  We do not have to wallow in doubt.  But those who doubt are welcome while they work things out.</p>
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		<title>The Visions of Joseph Smith</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[“The Mormons base their religion on the visions of Joseph Smith.” This passing remark I read the other day from a writer who was not familiar with our church struck me as a profoundly simple summary of our religion. Take &#8230; <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-visions-of-joseph-smith/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PQ20a3fjz14/SWOeEgPk2FI/AAAAAAAAA-E/fJBmFr2hyME/s1600-h/ElijahJosephSmith.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 154px; height: 200px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PQ20a3fjz14/SWOeEgPk2FI/AAAAAAAAA-E/fJBmFr2hyME/s200/ElijahJosephSmith.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5288244187675023442" border="0" /></a>“The <a href="http://www.mormon.org/">Mormons</a> base their religion on the <a href="http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/people/joseph_smith/visions.html">visions of Joseph Smith</a>.”  This passing remark I read the other day from a writer who was not familiar with our church struck me as a profoundly simple summary of our religion.  Take away the visions of <a href="http://josephsmith.lds.org/">Joseph Smith</a> and what have we got?  Nothing &#8211; much of our religion is found in the <a href="http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/the-restoration-of-truth/the-book-of-mormon">Book of Mormon</a> and yet much of it is not.</p>
<p>Some have compared the <a href="http://www.lds.org/">LDS Church</a> with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses">Jehovah’s Witnesses</a> because they are both religions that started in America in the 19th Century.  But you can search in vain for claims to visions or revelation in the history of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell">Charles Taze Russell</a>, founder of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.  His organization was formed as a Bible study group with no special claims of <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Authority">divine authority</a>.</p>
<p>Another American religious group that formed in the 19th century, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-day_Adventist_Church">Seventh-day Adventists</a>, followed the same path of establishment by the Bible studies of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Miller_%28preacher%29">William Miller</a>.  Joseph Smith, on the other hand, made no secret to his claims that he had been visited first <a href="http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/the-restoration-of-truth/the-restoration-of-the-gospel">by God and Jesus</a> and then by <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Angels">angels</a> – lots of them.  Now, that’s something that you don’t hear about every day.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Visits from celestial beings</span></p>
<p>I would say that our claim to visits from <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Angels">celestial beings</a> is very remarkable.  In fact, perhaps this claim is one of the most unique things about our church.  Sure, other churches teach that you can receive the <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Holy_Spirit">Holy Spirit</a> and be influenced by angels, but not many teach that angels have come to visit their founder multiple times, providing direction and instructions on how to set up <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-Day_Saints%2C_the">a church</a>.</p>
<p>Since visits by angels are not common occurrences in most people’s lives, it stands to reason that this is both a curiosity and a point of some ridicule or scorn.  When it comes right down to it, if a friend were to ask you about <a href="http://www.mormonbeliefs.org/joseph_smith/joseph_smith_angelic">angelic visitations</a> and how they work, what would you say?  I have never been visited by an angel, at least not that I am aware of, so I can’t say just how this works.</p>
<p>And yet I believe that Joseph Smith told the truth when he said he was <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/First_Vision">visited by God</a>, Jesus, and a multitude of angels.  We also believe that Joseph Smith was very much <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Visions_of_Joseph_Smith">a visionary man</a> who received literally hundreds of visions and other <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Revelation">revelations</a>, all inspired or given of God.  How many visions have you received?  How many people do you know who profess divine visions?</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Claims of mental illness</span></p>
<p>In an attempt to explain away Joseph’s claims to visions, some have suggested that he suffered from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-epileptic_seizure">seizures</a> of some kind, perhaps <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seizure">epileptic</a>.  Others have said that he had a vivid <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagination">imagination</a> or was just a really good <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie">liar</a>.  If someone were to present themselves to the world today with claims of receiving visits from angels and visions from God, most of us would say he is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity">crazy</a>.</p>
<p>I know I would be very <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skepticism">skeptical</a> if a friend, neighbor or work associate were to share with me that he had seen visions.  People just don’t do that today for fear of being placed in the local <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatric_hospital">mental hospital</a> for observation.  We would say someone like this is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusions">delusional</a>, suffering from some form of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_illness">mental illness</a> such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis">psychosis</a> or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia">schizophrenia</a>, causing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_%28psychology%29">fantastic</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination">hallucinations</a>.</p>
<p>Most people who <a href="http://www.essortment.com/all/hearingvoices_rjow.htm">hear voices in their head</a> don’t like this experience and seek help to deal with it.  Yet Joseph Smith claimed that God spoke to him over and over again for years and years as He told him how to set up the church that he formed.  I don’t hear voices in my head on a regular basis, but I can say that there are times I think I have felt <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Inspiration">inspired</a> with ideas, words and phrases.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Joseph Smith spoke for God</span></p>
<p>So I guess a big part of accepting the claims of Joseph Smith is deciding for yourself if he was crazy, delusional or just an incredibly talented manipulator of the people around him.  Most people in the world who are religious believe in some sort of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_revelation">supernatural communications</a> from Deity to man.  Most <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Religious_Experience">religious people</a> look for ways to understand divine messages in their life.</p>
<p>How much do you agree with the following statement? “Yes, I believe the leaders of my church receive regular communication from God.”  How about these?  “I know that God has revealed Himself to the founder of my church.  I am certain that He continues to guide the leaders who have followed him.  I believe that most, if not all of them have been visited by God as well.”</p>
<p>A prophet is someone who lived way back in ancient history, in <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Old_Testament">Old Testament</a> times, right?  I can’t imagine someone today claiming to be a prophet.  If they did, we would think they were crazy.  And yet, so many people are searching for divine guidance that they listen to all kinds of crazy people who claim to be <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Prophet">prophets</a>.  Wait, the <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Mormonism%2C_Mormons">Mormons</a> claim to have prophets, don’t they?</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Joseph Smith was a prophet</span></p>
<p>If someone is going to claim to be a <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Prophet">prophet</a> – one who speaks for God – then they had better provide a way for me to know for myself that his claim is true.  I’m not going to believe anyone who comes to me and says he has a message for me from God unless I have some <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence">evidence</a> that God really did send him to me.  What evidence or proof did Joseph Smith provide for his claims?</p>
<p>We teach that the <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Book_of_Mormon">Book of Mormon</a> is the work of a prophet.  It is something that we can read and judge for ourselves as a witness of the claim of Joseph Smith that he was called of God to restore <a href="http://www.lds.org/">the Church of Jesus Christ</a> in our day.  Joseph claimed to have <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Translation_of_the_Book_of_Mormon">translated</a> the Book of Mormon from <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Gold_Plates">gold plates</a>, and that it contains the words of God to <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Golden_Bible">ancient American prophets</a>.</p>
<p>Now that is a fantastic claim.  If this man was delusional, then he had some of the most elaborate delusions known to man.  Visions of God, <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Moroni%2C_Visitations_of">visits from angels</a>, <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Gold_Plates">gold plates</a> and revelations that proclaim what God is going to do in the last days – these are all things that are simply unheard of.  Yet that is what we are proclaiming to the world – so all can learn and judge for themselves.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Summary and conclusion</span></p>
<p>Visions into the <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Spirit_World">spirit world</a>, receiving visits by divine celestial beings and producing new scripture are all things that a prophet would do.  In fact, we read in the <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Old_Testament">Old Testament</a> that God speaks to prophets <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ex/33/11#11">face to face</a>.  That’s an astonishing claim for any man to make in our day and age and yet, that is exactly what Joseph Smith claimed as he organized a new church in 1830.</p>
<p>You can read more about <a href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=750de5c45d19f010VgnVCM100000176f620aRCRD&amp;vgnextchannel=3e0511154963d010VgnVCM1000004e94610aRCRD">the visions of Joseph Smith</a>, not in the Book of Mormon, but in the <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Doctrine_and_Covenants#Overview">Doctrine and Covenants</a>, a record of selected revelations that Joseph Smith received during a period of about twenty years.  As a church we are studying the <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Doctrine_and_Covenants">Doctrine and Covenants</a> this year in our <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Sunday_School">Sunday school</a> classes.  So much of what we believe can be found in these scriptures.</p>
<p>I love reading the <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=a443515e04f5e110VgnVCM100000176f620a____">Doctrine and Covenants</a>. I often read it aloud in my personal studies just to get the effect of hearing the <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Voice_of_Warning">voice of the Lord</a>.  It is powerful and brings a spirit of revelation as I do.  <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Celestial%2C_Terrestrial%2C_and_Telestial_Kingdoms">Several</a> of Joseph’s visions are recorded in the Doctrine and Covenants, but certainly not all. He was a visionary man and made no secret of the fact that God spoke to him through these visions.</p>
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