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		<title>How Americans View Mormonism</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Misconceptions, distortions, and untruths being told about Mormons have slowed the growth of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They say that we have weird beliefs and are secretive. Yet they also say we are good neighbors, hard workers, believe in clean living, have high moral standards and help others. <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/how-americans-view-mormonism/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/HowAmericansViewMormonism.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-801" title="HowAmericansViewMormonism" src="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/HowAmericansViewMormonism-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="300" /></a>We spent an hour with <a title="Gary Lawrence page at Deseret Book" href="http://deseretbook.com/auth/19904/Gary_C_Lawrence">Gary Lawrence</a> last night. He was gracious enough to come up to visit our stake in Camarillo from his home in Orange County. <a title="Mormon Times article on Gary Lawrence" href="http://www.mormontimes.com/article/11306/Pollster-to-Mormons-Inform-with-simple-facts">Dr. Lawrence</a> is an American opinion pollster who also happens to be a Latter-day Saint. He has been travelling around the church sharing the results of a poll he conducted in the spring of 2007 on American’s perception of Latter-day Saints in the United States.</p>
<p>He published a book in 2008 with the findings of his poll, <a title="How Americans View Mormonism" href="http://www.howamericansviewmormonism.com/">How Americans View Mormonism: Seven Steps to Improve Our Image</a>. Dr. Lawrence received a PhD in communications psychology from Stanford University in 1972. He said that of over twenty doctoral candidates in his group, he was the only LDS, Republican, conservative hawk among them. So he knows a little about being in the minority.</p>
<p><strong>Lawrence Research</strong></p>
<p>Now if you know anything about recent events in California, you’ll recognize that Gary’s business, Lawrence Research was the opinion polling company that was heavily involved in Proposition 8. Gary was also the state LDS grassroots director for the <a title="Protect Marriage" href="http://www.protectmarriage.com/">Protect Marriage coalition</a>. Brother Lawrence, who has served as a bishop has spent over 35 years studying opinions and behaviors of the American public.</p>
<p>From the results of his survey, Dr. Lawrence maintains that the misconceptions, distortions, and untruths being told about Mormons have slowed the growth of <a title="LDS Church" href="http://lds.org/?lang=eng">The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints</a> and that the average member is best positioned to turn things around. By the way, the name of his next book, due from Deseret Book later this year is “What Part of Our Name Don’t You Understand?”</p>
<p><strong>Survey Results</strong></p>
<p>For me, the most interesting result of the survey was that our perceived image is upside down. Forty-nine percent of those surveyed had an unfavorable impression of Mormons. Only thirty-seven percent had a favorable impression. They say that we have weird beliefs and are secretive. Yet they also say we are good neighbors, hard workers, believe in clean living, have high moral standards and help others.</p>
<p>Lawrence said that thirty-seven percent of all Americans do not know a Mormon, and fifty-five percent of all Americans do not know an active Mormon. In fact, those who know one Mormon have a worse opinion of us than those who do not know any Mormons. We are viewed unfavorably more than Jews or Baptists (3.5 to 1) and Catholics (2 to 1). Mormons, less than 1 to 1. That’s a terrible ratio.</p>
<p><strong>Negative Image</strong></p>
<p>Simple ignorance is often blamed for Mormonism&#8217;s negative image, but Gary also concludes that it is driven by fear — fear of a supposed political agenda, wealth, organizational ability, unwavering doctrine, and a unique vocabulary that is often misunderstood. He gave some wonderful examples but I’ll have to defer in sharing some of the better ones until I receive his book that I <a title="Deseret Book page for Gary's book" href="http://deseretbook.com/How-Americans-View-Mormonism-Seven-Steps-Improve-Our-Image-Gary-C-Lawrence/i/5023346">ordered from Deseret Book</a>.</p>
<p>His book explains that individual members in their daily interactions with others are the key. In his presentation, which he has probably delivered dozens of times, he pointed out that friendly and natural conversations, the facts, simple claims, individual latitude, non-threatening invitations and gentle mentoring are the ways Mormons can combat distortions, improve our image, and spread the gospel.</p>
<p><strong>Unique Vocabulary</strong></p>
<p>A central claim of our church is that we have the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. Gary explained that this phrase is not well understood by those outside our faith. They equate the word restore as something you do to an old car or a piece of old furniture. He suggested that a better phrase to use would be: “We claim to be the re-established Christian Church.” I like that. It is simpler and easier to understand.</p>
<p>He even broke it down for us into three bite-sized pieces: 1) Christ organized a church. 2) Men changed it and 3) It has been brought back. Amazingly, 84 percent of Americans have had exposure to our church, yet only 14 percent can tell you that this is our main differentiating claim from other Christian churches. While people may not agree with our claim, we want and need them to understand it.</p>
<p><strong>Meaning of Gospel</strong></p>
<p>They can then decide for themselves how they will respond to that claim. But if they never get the real message, how can they make a legitimate choice? Naturally, some people will reject the gospel truth once it has been presented to them. And that’s another word that we use differently from the rest of Christianity. To us, the gospel means more than the words of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter and Paul.</p>
<p>Most Mormons equate gospel to mean the overarching plan of happiness that was presented in our pre-earth life. We have come to see the gospel as more than just a theology, but as a way of life, and that it encompasses all truth that we embrace. But in reality, the gospel is the good news of the doctrine of Christ, that all will be resurrected and that we can be forgiven of sins through repentance and ordinances.</p>
<p><strong>Higher Education</strong></p>
<p>That’s why we can say that the fullness of the gospel is contained in the Book of Mormon even though there are many additional doctrines we believe that are only found outside the Book or Mormon. In fact, some within our church have gone so far as to claim that obtaining a degree of higher education is a part of the gospel. Does that mean that early saints and prophets without a B.A. degree are not saved?</p>
<p>Of course not; that would be a ridiculous example. While we believe in continuing education and encourage our members to get all the education we can, an advanced degree is not a requirement for entrance into the kingdom of heaven. A high school diploma is not required. There is no requirement for any type of certified education to meet God’s conditions to enter into his kingdom; only obedience to his laws.</p>
<p><strong>Mormon Scholars Testify</strong></p>
<p>In our Mormon culture, besides placing great emphasis on education, we also hold those who have received advanced degrees and yet remained faithful in very high esteem. Dr. Lawrence has shared his testimony in greater detail on the website, <a title="Mormon Scholars Testify" href="http://mormonscholarstestify.org/">Mormon Scholars Testify</a>, which was created by another visitor to our stake, <a title="Daniel C. Peterson" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_C._Peterson">Dr. Daniel C. Petersen</a>, speaking about BYU’s involvement in the <a title="BYU and Dead Sea Scrolls" href="http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/dss/">Dead Sea scrolls</a>.</p>
<p>My fellow blogger <a title="Mormon Insights" href="http://mormoninsights.blogspot.com/">Steve Faux</a> introduced me to the site a few years back when he was asked to share his thoughts and feelings about being a believing Mormon who teaches evolution at the University level. I have watched participation grow over the years until there are now more than 200 testimonies recorded there. Compare that to twenty being promoted on the opposing site <a title="Ex-Mormon Scholars Testify" href="http://www.exmormonscholarstestify.org/">Ex-Mormon scholars testify</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Opposition in All Things</strong></p>
<p>One of our fundamental doctrines is that we believe there must be <a title="Opposition in all things" href="http://lds.org/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/2.11?lang=eng#10">opposition in all things</a>. I love the Internet for the very reason that it allows us to see the very best and the very worst of the extremes on just about any issue. I’m not a scholar and will probably never have an advanced degree, but I have come to appreciate both sides of the debate on controversial subjects I have written about over the years.</p>
<p>I can judge for myself when someone is presenting the truth in a distorted manner because I have been counseled over the years to study things out and come to my own conclusions about the truth of an issue. Some things can never be proven and will have to wait until the next life to determine who is right and who is wrong. That’s one of the purposes of life – to exercise faith and choose what we believe.</p>
<p><strong>Choose What We Believe</strong></p>
<p>I recommend you read the testimonies of <a title="Gary C. Lawrence testimony" href="http://mormonscholarstestify.org/918/gary-c-lawrence">Dr. Lawrence</a>, <a title="Daniel C Peterson's testimony" href="http://mormonscholarstestify.org/151/daniel-c-peterson-2">Dr. Petersen</a>, <a title="Steve Faux's testimony" href="http://mormonscholarstestify.org/664/steven-f-faux">S. Faux</a> and any others that you may recognize. They come from a variety of disciplines such as the Arts, Business, Management, Accounting, History, Religion, Social Science, Language, Literature, Law, Medicine, Psychology, Philosophy, Science, Mathematics and Engineering. Yes, Mormons believe in the value of education.</p>
<p>I hope this helps to dispel any misconceptions that Mormons are ignorant, closed-minded, brain-washed or uneducated. We do not follow our leaders blindly, nor do we worship our prophets, living or dead. But we do value loyalty and respect to those who we sustain as prophets and apostles. It is my testimony that they are leading us to Christ. I choose to follow their direction and counsel for my family.</p>
<p>For a great discussion of our image, or rather reputation, listen to what Michael Otterson had to say to Robert Millet on <a title="Michael Otterson on Mormon Identity" href="http://radio.lds.org/playlist?lang=eng&amp;audioNumbers=81026">this episode</a> of <a title="Mormon Identity" href="http://radio.lds.org/programs/mormon-identities?lang=eng">Mormon Identity</a> on <a title="The Mormon Channel" href="http://radio.lds.org/?lang=eng">The Mormon Channel</a>.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a deep personal interest in the anticipated social response to the upcoming movie, 2012.  While it looks to be great entertainment from the fertile mind of Roland Emmerich, I am fascinated by the idea of how our society &#8230; <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/when-prophets-need-to-know/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Meteor over Indonesia" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUZrEaj87kc"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-513" title="meteorjatuh" src="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/meteorjatuh-150x150.jpg" alt="meteorjatuh" width="150" height="150" /></a>I have a deep personal interest in the anticipated social response to the <a title="Who will survive?" href="http://www.whowillsurvive2012.com/">upcoming movie, 2012</a>.  While it looks to be great entertainment from the fertile mind of <a title="Roland Emmerich" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Emmerich">Roland Emmerich</a>, I am fascinated by the idea of how our society will react to some sort of a major catastrophic cataclysmic event like that depicted in the film.</p>
<p>I don’t go in for conspiracy theories that the government of the United States has a secret plan for the survival of the race.  I am certain that we have plans in place to ensure the <a title="Continuity of Government" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_of_government">continuity of the <em>government</em></a> in event of nuclear war or some other disaster, but the survival of the <em><strong>citizens</strong></em> of this country is a whole different matter.</p>
<p><strong>A wise investment</strong></p>
<p>As I get older, I take the idea of having a <a title="Food Storage" href="http://www.providentliving.org/channel/1,11677,1706-1,00.html">usable stockpile of food and water </a>much more seriously than when I was younger.  We have dipped into our food storage several times over the past few years as the grip of a tight economy has reached into our personal finances.  But I value my food storage for a different reason.</p>
<p>I am convinced that the day will come, in my lifetime, that we will not be able to leave our homes for extended periods of time in order to go out and buy food.  It could be due to a flu pandemic or perhaps social unrest, but I am more inclined to think that it will be from some sort of a plague that will keep us indoors for weeks.</p>
<p><strong>A prophecy of plagues</strong></p>
<p>Now there’s a word that you don’t hear thrown around much these days.  Do I mean a <a title="Black Death" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death">plague like the kind that decimated Europe</a> during the middle ages?  No.  How about a plague like the kind that caused so many deaths at the end of World War I – <a title="1918 Flu Pandemic" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic">the 1918 flu pandemic</a>?  No, I’m thinking of a different kind of plague.</p>
<p>Perhaps turning to the scriptures will bring it to a better light.  Let’s take a look at <a title="Revelations Chapter 8" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/rev/8">Revelations chapter eight</a>. There are several references to plagues contained in the next few chapters but <a title="Rev 8:7" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/rev/8/7#7">verse seven</a> describes the beginning of the plague to which I refer now.  What things fall to the earth when the first angel sounds his trumpet?</p>
<p><strong>Hail and fire and blood</strong></p>
<p>I’ve <a title="Prophets, Scholars and Burning Hail" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/prophets-scholars-and-burning-hail/">written about this previously</a>, but my interpretation of the phrase, “hail and fire mingled with blood” is this:  The hail is actually small stones or <a title="Meteorites" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorite">meteorites</a>.  The fire is a sticky, burning petroleum-like fluid found in the tail of comets. It is also known as <a title="Naphtha" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha">naphtha</a>, a volatile and flammable liquid mixture of hydrocarbons.</p>
<p>The blood is a description of water of the earth mixed with a <a title="Red Sky" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/red-sky/">red dust</a> that is some form of <a title="Iron Oxide" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron(III)_oxide">ferric oxide</a>.  This red dust is water soluble, looks just like blood when it hits the water, and is highly toxic to life.  In addition, it is irritating to the skin and can cause a plague of microbes, insects and vermin to rapidly propagate in heat.</p>
<p><strong>Writings of Anthony Larson</strong></p>
<p>If this all sounds familiar, then you have read either the works of <a title="David Talbott" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Talbott">David Talbott</a>, <a title="Immanuel Velikovsky" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky">Immanuel Velikovsky</a> or my friend and fellow blogger, <a title="Anthony Larson" href="http://www.mormonprophecy.com">Anthony Larson</a>.  My wife and I met with Anthony last week to talk about collaborating on a book idea that has been brewing in my head over the past little while as my wife has been recovering.</p>
<p>I like Anthony because he’s a bit of a controversial figure in the church.  He has written and published five books on the subject of the events of the very last days.  His explanations of the scriptures pertaining to the last days are not the orthodox and standard answers you will find in the commentaries of today’s LDS scholars.</p>
<p><strong>The prophecy trilogy</strong></p>
<p>In fact, his writings have been denounced by scientists at our religious institutions of higher learning, such as <a title="BYU" href="http://www.byu.edu">BYU</a>.  That doesn’t deter me.  I’m grateful for the gift of agency and the fact that the Lord allows us to choose what we want to believe about the scriptures, even if they don’t jive with conventional accepted teachings.</p>
<p>Is this a dangerous approach to learning?  I don’t think so.  The Lord tells us to <a title="1 Thes 5:21" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_thes/5/21#21">prove all things</a> and hold fast to that which is good.  I have been pondering what I have read in Anthony’s books for about twenty-five years since I first read his prophecy trilogy back in the 1980’s.  I have also prayed about what he has written.</p>
<p><strong>Other inspired men</strong></p>
<p>Now that may seem a little odd, different or downright dangerous in our LDS culture.  Why would you pray about what someone has written who is not a <a title="General Authority" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/General_Authorities">general authority</a>?  Why, that’s unthinkable, preposterous even! Don’t you know that you are on the road to apostasy if you listen to someone besides an <a title="Apostle" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Apostle">apostle</a>?</p>
<p>Yes, men can be deceived and we can all point to examples throughout history where good people have been proven fools to follow after the interpretations of the scriptures by men who were not authorized to speak on behalf of the Lord.  But that brings up an interesting question that I wonder if you have ever considered.</p>
<p><strong>Some prophets are experts</strong></p>
<p>Where do prophets turn when they need to know something about which they are not experts?  For example, when our apostles want to know facts about something in the medical world, I’ll bet they consult with <a title="Russell M Nelson" href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/background-information/leader-biographies/elder-russell-m-nelson">Russell M. Nelson</a>, another of our apostles who just happens to be a medical doctor and renowned heart surgeon.</p>
<p>When they want to know something about the interpretation of law, there are several excellent choices among <a title="Dallin H Oaks" href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/background-information/leader-biographies/elder-dallin-h-oaks">Elder Oaks</a>, <a title="Quesnin L Cook" href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/background-information/leader-biographies/elder-quentin-l-cook">Elder Cook</a> or <a title="D Todd Christffherson" href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/background-information/leader-biographies/elder-d-todd-christofferson">Elder Christofferson</a>.  For nuclear physics, they turn to <a title="Richard G Scott" href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/background-information/leader-biographies/elder-richard-g-scott">Elder Scott</a>.  For managing a university, we have <a title="Henry B Eyring" href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/background-information/leader-biographies/president-henry-b-eyring">President Eyring</a>, <a title="Dallin H Oaks" href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/background-information/leader-biographies/elder-dallin-h-oaks">Elder Oaks</a>, <a title="Jeffrey R Holland" href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/background-information/leader-biographies/elder-jeffrey-r-holland">Elder Holland</a> and <a title="David A Bednar" href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/background-information/leader-biographies/elder-david-a-bednar">Elder Bednar</a>, all great educators.</p>
<p><strong>Turning to the experts</strong></p>
<p>But what do they do when they want to understand <a title="Astrophysics" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrophysics">astrophysics</a>?  To whom do the Brethren turn when they need help interpreting and explaining the events that are starting to concern and even frighten more and more of the world’s population, as the end times draw to a close?  Who will help our leaders explain all these things?</p>
<p>Why, they turn to the professors of <a title="Astronomy at BYU" href="http://astronomy.byu.edu/">astronomy at BYU</a> of course.  Or, if they’re not particularly fans of that institution – gasp! – then they turn to the smaller faculty at the <a title="Astronomy at the U of U" href="http://www.physics.utah.edu/astronomy/">University of Utah</a>.  I’m sure there are a myriad of faithful LDS scientists who can provide the needed background to explain meteorites and other scary things.</p>
<p><strong>Turning to the Lord</strong></p>
<p>You may ask, “Can’t they just turn to the Lord in prayer and receive the necessary knowledge to guide the people when the catastrophes that are prophesied to happen begin to come to pass in earnest?”  Of course you know they can.  The Lord can and will “<a title="Amos 3:7" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/amos/3/7#7">do nothing but he revealeth his secret to his servants the prophets</a>.”</p>
<p>But we are taught and believe that the Lord <a title="D&amp;C 9:8" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/9/8#8">requires us to do our homework</a> before he confirms to our hearts and minds that what we have studied and determined on a given subject is correct.  The apostles are no different from you and me when it comes to the right to receive <a title="Revelation" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Revelation">revelation</a>, though they understand the process better.</p>
<p><strong>Experts can be wrong</strong></p>
<p>The problem with turning to the experts in Astrophysics is that the most of them do not subscribe to the views of ancient prophets on the subject of how the planets and stars behave.  Things were different back then and there is no written record of how things really were.  They prefer to use current observations for their facts.</p>
<p>Yes, the idea that the heavens have always been the way we see them now is very much in vogue even among our LDS scientists.  The idea that the planets in our solar system could have once been in a different configuration sometime within the last four thousand years even is unthinkable and has no scientific basis for proof.</p>
<p><strong>Summary and conclusion</strong></p>
<p>Yep, Tim’s gone off his rocker.  He is claiming that scientists are wrong.  He’s gone off the deep end and thrown his cap in with the crowd of crazies who believe in <a title="Nibiru" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_collision">planet X</a> and that <a title="2012 phenomenon" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon">2012 is the end of the world</a>.  No, I don’t believe that, but I do believe that Anthony Larson has made more sense of things than most scientists.</p>
<p>So until an apostle or prophet comes out and says that Anthony Larson is wrong in his interpretation of the scriptures, I have decided to join forces with him and have committed to write and publish a work of fiction based on his research.  Call me crazy but I’m looking forward to the ride.  Stay tuned for the exciting adventures.</p>
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		<title>Shades of Grey and relative truth</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In 1978, civil war broke out in Nicaragua, just after I left the country. My Mission President went from Costa Rica to Managua to help the missionaries get out of the country.  As he was literally leaving the chapel where he &#8230; <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/shades_of_grey/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="President Muren Family" href="http://www.3tcm.net/PresMurenFamily.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-411" title="presmurenfamily" src="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/presmurenfamily-150x150.jpg" alt="presmurenfamily" width="150" height="150" /></a>In 1978, civil war broke out in <a title="Nicaragua" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua">Nicaragua</a>, just after I left the country. My <a title="Mission President" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Mission_President">Mission President</a> went from Costa Rica to Managua to help the missionaries get out of the country.  As he was literally leaving the <a title="Chapel" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Chapel">chapel</a> where he had told the missionaries to gather, the <a title="Sandinistas" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandinista">Sandinistas</a> came running in from the other door and stopped them.</p>
<p>Demanding to know what side of the conflict they were on, <a title="Joseph C. Muren" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_C._Muren">President Muren</a> responded with the phrase, &#8220;tonos de gris,&#8221; which means shades of grey.  He did not stop but kept going right out the door and was able to get that group of Elders out of the country.  Gratefully, all the <a title="Missionaries" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Missionaries">missionaries</a> eventually made it safely out.</p>
<p><strong>Social or Cultural Mormons</strong></p>
<p>Can a person be a member of the <a title="Mormon" href="http://www.mormon.org">LDS faith</a> and not believe some of the <a title="Doctrine" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Doctrine">doctrine</a> or accept the <a title="Church History" href="http://www.lds.org/churchhistory/history">official story</a> of the <a title="Mormon History" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Mormon_history">history</a>?  Absolutely!  We call them social or <a title="Cultural Mormons" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Mormon">cultural Mormons</a> and there are countless numbers of them within the church.  Many of these kinds of members come from multi-generation <a title="Mormon Pioneers" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Mormon_Pioneers">pioneer</a> LDS families.</p>
<p>If you survey an average <a title="Mormon meetings" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Mormon_meetings">congregation</a> in the LDS faith, you will find that there are a surprising number who just don’t care about some of the doctrine and care even less about the history.  They are there because it is their family tradition and they derive satisfaction from the social interaction among good people that they know.</p>
<p><strong>Looking for the middle ground</strong></p>
<p>They feel uncomfortable when they hear <a title="Loyalty" href="http://lds.org/conference/talk/display/0,5232,23-1-353-21,00.html">statements</a> from their leaders that the <a title="LDS Church" href="http://www.lds.org">LDS church</a> is either the <a title="Kingdom of God" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Kingdom_of_God">kingdom of God</a> or it is nothing.  When someone says that <a title="Joseph Smith" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Joseph_Smith">Joseph Smith</a> was either God’s <a title="Mormon Prophet" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Prophet">prophet</a> or he was a great fraud, they feel unfairly pressured to have to put their view of the man in such black and white terms.</p>
<p>Isn’t there some <a title="There is no middle ground" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/there-is-no-middle-ground/">middle ground</a> where good people can participate in the Mormon faith without having to take sides about Joseph Smith, the <a title="Book of Mormon" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Book_of_Mormon">Book of Mormon</a>, the idea of <a title="Angels" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Angels">angels</a> visiting Joseph and the concept of <a title="Priesthood Keys" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Keys_of_the_Priesthood">priesthood keys</a> and <a title="Authority" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Authority">authority</a>?  There is so much good in the church.  Why does it have to be classified as <a title="True and Living Church" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/True_and_Living_Church">true</a>?</p>
<p><strong>The American Mormon culture</strong></p>
<p>There are many members of the LDS church who do not fit the stereotypical image of <a title="US Conservatism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_the_United_States">conservative</a>, <a title="Orthodoxy" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodoxy">orthodox</a>, <a title="Republican" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)">Republican</a>, <a title="White Collar" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-collar_worker">white-collar</a>, <a title="All American" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-American_(disambiguation)">all-American</a> family.  The church membership is actually quite diverse, especially as one travels outside the confines of the <a title="Intermountain West" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermountain_West">Intermountain West</a> where the church flourished and is the strongest.</p>
<p>Culturally, as a church and a people, we seem to have become stagnated in the mindset of the <a title="19th Century" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19th_Century">19th century</a> view of <a title="Mormonism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism">Mormonism</a> that still conflicts with the outside world.  The church is growing beyond the <a title="Mormon corridor" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Corridor">Mormon corridor</a> but is experiencing a sort of consolidation in the traditional strongholds of the faith – the center of <a title="Zion" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Zion">Zion</a>.</p>
<p><strong>The one true church</strong></p>
<p>Many good people who recognize this cultural myopia and <a title="Parochialism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parochialism">parochialism</a> that exists within the LDS faith have expanded their views and horizons beyond the <a title="Mores" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mores">mores</a> and restraints of the traditional, orthodox Mormon <a title="Worldview" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldview">worldview</a>.  There are so many good people out there that are doing great things to serve their local communities.</p>
<p>Because these <a title="Progressive Christianity" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Christianity">progressive</a> thinking people have expanded their views they have come in contact with different ways of thinking about the <a title="Religious Experience" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_experience">religious experience</a> and about their own Mormon upbringing.  The idea of belonging to <a title="One true church" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-only-true-and-living-church/">the one true church</a> has come to be offensive and difficult, if not impossible to defend in their minds.</p>
<p><strong>God’s chosen people</strong></p>
<p>They see and are embarrassed by what appears to be a contest of <a title="Right and wrong" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=4bd89209df38b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">right and wrong</a> between our zeal as <a title="Every member a missionary" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Every_Member_a_Missionary">a missionary church</a> and the good people who are not already a part of the elect kingdom of God.  Whereas previously they were uncomfortable with a perceived <a title="Exclusivism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusivism">exclusivist</a> approach, they now are adamant that we are wrong.</p>
<p>We are <a title="Judgemental" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=2d0584d4a0a0c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">judgmental</a>, they cry.  Why can’t we accept everybody else just the way they are?  Why are we trying to <a title="Convert" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Convert">convert</a> people when they are already happy and doing much good in their own faith?  The idea of rules for membership becomes chafing.  Why does the church have such high <a title="Standards of strength" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=347e7264d3b9c110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;vgnextoid=024644f8f206c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">standards</a> that drive people crazy?</p>
<p><strong>Pointing out the flaws and faults</strong></p>
<p>A large percentage of the LDS membership either does not know or does not care about some of the <a title="Troubling issues" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/general-authority-training-advanced-subjects/">troubling issues</a> of our early history and growth as a church.  It is frustrating to progressive thinkers that so many within the faith are not as well versed as they are on these issues and the supposed quandaries that they present.</p>
<p>So they become more vocal and <a title="Strident" href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/strident?rdfrom=Strident">strident</a> in pointing out the flaws and faults of the church and its leaders, both historical and current.  Their frustration increases when their audience either shrugs its collective shoulders or ignores their efforts to educate them on the problems that they see in the church.  How can they not care?</p>
<p><strong>Many faithful members do know</strong></p>
<p>While there are many who don’t know and don’t care, there are just as many who are very knowledgeable in the issues and problems that are troublesome to our <a title="Liberalism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism">liberal minded</a> members.  It’s just that we have found answers within our own hearts and minds many years ago that satisfy the potential <a title="Cognitive dissonance" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance">cognitive dissonance</a>.</p>
<p>We quietly go about our lives, secure and confident in the knowledge that we have found answers for the most important elements of our faith.  We invite others to taste of the peace that comes from knowing that there are answers and that there are many solid and bedrock truths upon which we can build our lives and our faith.</p>
<p><strong>Raise a warning voice</strong></p>
<p>For some reason, when we try to share our <a title="Certainty" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certainty">certainty</a> about the truths we have found, we are sometimes misunderstood to be <a title="Arrogance or hubris" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris">arrogant</a> or presenting our faith as superior or more complete than theirs.  Yes, if you invite someone to share in your happiness then you are presenting what you have found to be of great worth.</p>
<p>This is a difficult task to perform.  We are commanded to <a title="Declare the truth" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/75/1-5#1">raise our voices</a> to let the world know of the events pertaining to <a title="Church history chronology" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/chchrono/contents">the founding of our church</a>.  We have been asked to <a title="Warn your neighbor" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/88/81#81">be bold</a> in declaring that God has called <a title="Prophets" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Prophet">prophets</a> in our day and that he has sent <a title="Angels" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Angels">angels</a> to ordain and teach truths that have long been lost from the world.</p>
<p><strong>Some truths are not relative</strong></p>
<p>And thus we arrive at the heart of the conflict between orthodox conservative Mormons and progressive liberal Mormons.  What is <a title="Truth" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Truth">truth</a>?  Can one say with any degree of certainty that they have found the best and most complete source of truth without excluding the many other sources of truth that are found in the world?</p>
<p>Truth is reality. Some kinds of truth can only be received through <a title="Revelation" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Revelation">revelation</a>. I have never seen God or Jesus. I was not there when Joseph received the <a title="First Vision" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/First_Vision">First Vision</a>. So for me to be able to know those facts, they have to be revealed to me by the <a title="Holy Ghost" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Holy_Ghost">Holy Ghost</a>.  Some truths are either <a title="Mystery of Godliness" href="http://speeches.byu.edu/reader/reader.php?id=6946">revealed of God</a> or they <a title="McConkie - relationship with God" href="http://speeches.byu.edu/reader/reader.php?id=6843">remain unknown</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Truths received by revelation</strong></p>
<p>The five pillars of the <a title="LDS Testimony" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Testimony">LDS testimony</a> require revelation: God lives, Jesus is the Christ, the Savior called Joseph as a prophet, the <a title="Book of Mormon" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Book_of_Mormon">Book of Mormon</a> was brought forth by the <a title="Joseph has done more..." href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/135/3#3">gift and power of God</a> and the church that Joseph established is authorized of God to administer the <a title="Ordinances" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Ordinances">ordinances of salvation</a> that God requires.</p>
<p>Without <a title="Revelation" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Revelation">revelation</a> from the <a title="Holy Ghost" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Holy_Ghost">Holy Ghost</a> we can’t say that we know these things. It’s just not logical. I have studied the Book of Mormon and the Church that claims to be God’s only church authorized to administer the ordinances of salvation. With revelation from the Holy Ghost I can say I know they are what they claim to be.</p>
<p><strong>Summary and conclusion</strong></p>
<p>In some things in life, it is wise to take a position characterized by my Mission President’s <a title="Missionaries and Sandinistas" href="http://www.3tcm.net/CivilWar.htm">response to the Sandinistas</a> – shades of grey.  We do not always know all the facts of some situations and should withhold judgment until a later time.  However, in some critical matters, we must take a position and know for ourselves.</p>
<p>It takes work and determination to obtain knowledge about the five pillars of an LDS <a title="Testimony" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Testimony">testimony</a>.  But I, and millions of others over the years, can say with great certainty that God does reveal knowledge about himself and his prophets to those who diligently seek it.  This revealed knowledge does not come in shades of grey.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last November, LDS Harvard undergrad Rachel Esplin made viral video news with her incredibly articulate and intelligent responses to some very difficult questions about the Mormon faith. She was asked whether she wears sacred undergarments, if Mormonism is a cult, how &#8230; <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/rachel-esplin-video-continues-to-be-a-hit/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last November, LDS Harvard undergrad Rachel Esplin made viral video news with her incredibly articulate and intelligent responses to some very difficult questions about the Mormon faith. She was asked whether she wears sacred undergarments, if Mormonism is a cult, how she views the role of women in her church, and what her relationship is with Jesus. For not having served a mission, this young 20-year old is an amazing missionary for the LDS faith.</p>
<p><a title="Vimeo Rachel Esplin" href="http://vimeo.com/2120177">The interview</a> is twenty minutes long and something you may enjoy viewing as part of a Family Home Evening or perhaps even burning it to a DVD and sharing it in a Sunday School lesson about how to share the gospel in today&#8217;s media savvy world. Rachel was on the debate team in her high school and her mother teaches at BYU Idaho. But still, this young woman did a better job than I ever could at responding to difficult questions with poise and confidence.</p>
<p>You may also be interested in viewing some of the hundreds of comments that accompanied just one typical news piece covering the popularity of the video as it appeared in <a title="Boston Globe article" href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles_of_faith/2009/03/mormon_tv_harva.html">the Boston Globe</a>.  I think the very first comment is excellent as it helps us to see how the world perceives us as being closed and secretive.  Especially note the tenor of the comments that focus on the <a title="Only true and living church" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-only-true-and-living-church/">claims of exclusivity</a>.  This continues to be a difficult point for many to deal with both within and without the church.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/2120177">Day of Faith: Personal Quests for a Purpose &#8211; 3. Rachel Esplin</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user481977">Harvard Hillel</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although we take our doctrine and worship seriously, the unique Mormon culture can be a real head scratcher to those who are not familiar with the intricacies of the mixture of LDS history and the home-grown Utah slant on things. <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/mormons-can-poke-fun-at-themselves/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-274" title="bishopyoung" src="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/bishopyoung-150x150.jpg" alt="bishopyoung" width="150" height="150" />Sometimes you&#8217;ve just got to laugh at Mormon culture.  Bishop Mike T. Young of the <a title="Spanish Fork 401st ward" href="http://spanishfork401stward.blogspot.com/">Spanish Fork 401st ward</a> does a great job of  pointing out some of the insane things that we do because of our unique culture.  Love it or hate it, I just had to laugh. He&#8217;s been in his &#8220;calling&#8221; for a few months now and has been magnifying it admirably.</p>
<p>In the spirit of <a title="Seriously so blessed" href="http://seriouslysoblessed.blogspot.com/">Seriously So Blessed</a>, which pokes fun at Mormon mommy blogs and <a title="My religious blog" href="http://www.myregisblog.com/">My Religious blog</a>, which is absolutely hilarious, the <a title="Spanish Fork 401st ward" href="http://spanishfork401stward.blogspot.com/">Spanish Fork 401st ward</a> joins the ranks of <a title="What Mormons like" href="http://whatmormonslike.blogspot.com/">What Mormons like</a> and <a title="Overhead in the ward" href="http://overheardintheward.com/">Overheard in the Ward</a>.  If you are offended by Mormons poking fun at themselves, don&#8217;t go to any of these blogs.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a sample offering from a <a title="Suggestion box" href="http://spanishfork401stward.blogspot.com/2009/05/ward-suggestion-box-first-round.html">recent post</a> containing items from the suggestion box:</p>
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<li>Mini-refrigerator stocked with cold Mt. Dew for Elder&#8217;s Quorum</li>
<li>A better selection of table cloths and flower arrangements for Relief Society</li>
<li>A, &#8216;preferred,&#8217; calling spreadsheet where members can prioritize the callings that they&#8217;d like the Bishop to feel inspired to call them to</li>
<li>Home Teaching Hall-of-Shame list on the bulletin board for dead-beat HT&#8217;ers</li>
<li>Nose hair clipper to pass around HP Group meetings on Sunday</li>
</ul>
<p>Go add your own suggestions and enjoy the other delicious treats to be found there.</p>
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