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		<title>General Authority training – advanced subjects</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, you’ve completed all the prerequisite training and life experiences to prepare you for basic General Authority service.  You’ve been a missionary, a bishop, a stake president and have just returned from your latest assignment as a mission president.  You’re &#8230; <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/general-authority-training-advanced-subjects/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>OK, you’ve completed all the prerequisite training and life experiences to prepare you for basic <a title="General Authority" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/General_Authority">General Authority</a> service.  You’ve been a <a title="Missionary" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Mormon_missionaries">missionary</a>, a <a title="Bishop" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Bishop">bishop</a>, a <a title="Stake President" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Stake_President">stake president</a> and have just returned from your latest assignment as a <a title="Mission President" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Mission_President">mission president</a>.  You’re somewhat financially stable and are now ready for the real challenge of a call to serve in one of the <a title="Seventy" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Seventy">Quorums of the Seventy</a>.</p>
<p>You’ve been active and faithful in the church all your life and have a deep and abiding testimony of the <a title="The Gospel" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Gospel">restored gospel</a> of Jesus Christ.  You have enjoyed success and found great joy in helping others come to a knowledge of the Lord through your missionary labors.  You’re proven to be a gifted administrator in the <a title="Priesthood" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Priesthood">priesthood</a>.  You love to study the <a title="Scriptures" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Scriptures">scriptures</a> and to teach the gospel.</p>
<p><strong>Responding to difficult questions</strong></p>
<p>The <a title="Brethren" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Brethren">Brethren</a> have decided that all potential General Authorities must now take some additional classes prior to receiving the call.  While we are a <a title="Lay Ministry" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Lay_Participation_and_Leadership">lay ministry</a>, it is important that those who are called into positions that represent the church have skills developed in responding to difficult questions.  You know the ones I’m talking about.  <a title="President Hinckley" href="http://www.lds.org/churchhistory/presidents/controllers/potcController.jsp?leader=15&amp;topic=facts">President Hinckley</a> was asked some of them.</p>
<p>Since you are on that potential General Authority list, you have been selected to participate in this class.  In order to ensure that the training is effective, we have selected some real-world examples of the kind of questions you can expect to encounter.  While you may have had no experience in studying church history, you will most certainly be asked questions like these.</p>
<p><strong>The really hard list</strong></p>
<p>1. <a title="Joseph Smith polygamy" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-plural-wives-of-joseph-smith/">Joseph Smith polygamy</a> and polyandry – why didn’t we know about this?<br />
2. Book of Mormon translation &#8211; <a title="Seer stone in a hat" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/seer-stone-in-a-hat-book-of-mormon-translation/">Peep stone in a hat</a> vs. Urim &amp; Thummim<br />
3. Why are there <a title="First Vision" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/multiple-versions-of-the-first-vision/">multiple versions</a> of Joseph Smith&#8217;s First Vision story?<br />
4. Why did the <a title="Three Witnesses" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Three_Witnesses">three witnesses</a> of the Book of Mormon leave the church?<br />
5. Why is there no real <a title="Book of Mormon archaelogy" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Archaeology">archeological evidence</a> for the Book of Mormon?</p>
<p>6. <a title="DNA Evidence Book of Mormon" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/changes-to-the-book-of-mormon/">DNA evidence</a> proved that American Indians have no Israelite blood.<br />
7. Egyptian scholars have proven that the <a title="Book of Abraham" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/objections-to-the-book-of-abraham/">Book of Abraham</a> is a fraud.<br />
8. Did Joseph Smith take the Temple ceremony from the <a title="Joseph was a Mason" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/joseph-smith-was-a-mason-so-what/">Masons</a>?<br />
9. Could a real prophet have been deceived by the <a title="Kinderhook plates" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Kinderhook_plates">Kinderhook plates</a>?<br />
10. That is so exclusionary of us to claim to be the <a title="Only true church" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-only-true-and-living-church/">only true church</a>.</p>
<p>11. Did Brigham Young teach that <a title="Adam God theory" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/adam-god-theory-gets-attention-again/">Adam was God</a> and if so, why?<br />
12. Do we currently teach that <a title="God was once a man" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/man-of-holiness-is-his-name/">God was once a man</a> like we are?<br />
13. How can we really believe that <a title="Man can become a God" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/mormon-visitors-from-outer-space/">man can become a God</a>?<br />
14. How could the <a title="Mountain Meadows massacre" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/mountain-meadows-massacre-in-the-news-again/">Mountain Meadows Massacre</a> have happened?<br />
15. Why did the church practice <a title="Post manifesto plural marriage" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/no-such-thing-as-mormon-fundamentalism/">polygamy</a> after the 1890 manifesto?</p>
<p>16. Your church seems racist.  Why delay giving <a title="Blacks and priesthood" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Blacks">priesthood to blacks</a>?<br />
17. Why did President Hinckley <a title="I don't know that we teach it" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/i-dont-know-that-we-teach-it/">deny that we teach</a> long-held doctrines?<br />
18. How was President Hinckley deceived by the <a title="Mark Hoffman" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Mark_Hoffman">Mark Hoffman</a> forgeries?<br />
19. Why do Mormons believe that <a title="Spiritual brotherhood" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-doctrine-of-spiritual-brotherhood/">Lucifer and Jesus Christ are brothers</a>?<br />
20. There are documented cases of <a title="Spiritual abuse" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Alliance">spiritual abuse</a> by priesthood leaders.</p>
<p>21. Why is the church opposed to work of <a title="September six" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_Six">LDS scholars and intellectuals</a>?<br />
22. Why did the church cover up <a title="President Benson Alzheimers" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/when-a-prophet-gets-alzheimers-disease/">President Benson&#8217;s Alzheimer’s</a> disease?<br />
23. How can the true Church of Jesus Christ reject <a title="Do Mormons haye gays?" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/do-mormons-hate-gays/">those who are gay</a>?<br />
24. Why has <a title="LDS Church growth" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/mormon-church-is-not-the-fastest-growing/">church growth stopped</a> in the U.S. – baptisms decreasing?<br />
25. How can the LDS claim to be the true church with <a title="Church growth slows" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/lds-church-growth-slows-in-united-states/">so few members</a>?</p>
<p><strong>Effect of the questions</strong></p>
<p>These are legitimate questions raised over the years that can be found today <a title="Rough Stone Rolling" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/smoothing-down-that-rough-stone-rolling/">all over the Internet</a>.  Many of our young people are asked these questions by their friends on a regular basis.  They are not being malicious or trying to cause problems.  They simply want answers.  Even though they are difficult questions, some have studied them out in an effort to be able to provide the answers.</p>
<p>Sometimes they have discovered that even long-time members have never heard these questions.  They have been told by well-meaning leaders to just pray about it and they will get their answers.  But there is so much confusing information out there and no official LDS source that addresses these questions that they become discouraged and <a title="How to stay LDS" href="http://staylds.com/docs/HowToStay.html">begin to doubt</a> their testimonies of the church.</p>
<p><strong>Rules of engagement</strong></p>
<p>Your assignment as a new General Authority is to address these questions in a manner that <a title="Build faith and encourage study" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=e567759235d0c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;hideNav=1">builds faith and encourages continued study</a>.  You must not act surprised if you have never heard any of these questions before or don’t understand why they seem so important to those who are asking.  And you certainly don’t want to be dismissive of those who are bothered by these questions.</p>
<p>You must not defer them to others, claiming that “we have <a title="FAIR" href="http://www.fairlds.org/">apologists</a> who answer this stuff for us.”  That won’t cut it.  You’re now a General Authority and need to know the answers yourself.  Yes, it’s true that most members of the church have never heard these questions and don’t know that these are issues for some.  And yes, some members would be shocked to learn about all this.</p>
<p><strong>The challenge</strong></p>
<p>So your challenge is great.  How do you answer these questions without causing <a title="Doubt and testimony" href="http://en.fairmormon.org/Testimony_and_doubt_reconciliation">confusion or doubt</a> among the faithful members who do not question?  How do you respond to the one as the Savior taught?  Those who struggle with these questions are a relatively small number and yet they are very active on the Internet, where many people seek information on the church today.</p>
<p>At the same time, focusing on these questions and taking the time to research them, understand them and to be able to explain them is time consuming.  It takes away from one of the primary missions of the church to declare the gospel.  And yet, it fulfills another part of that mission by perfecting the saints.  Most of these questions are raised by <a title="DAMU" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/dealing-with-anti-mormon-attacks/">disaffected and former members</a>.</p>
<p><strong>A possible response</strong></p>
<p>It seems that we have failed a generation of bright and intelligent young people who have grown up on the Internet.  We did not anticipate what this amazing communication medium could do to supply facts and details about our history and doctrine.  It’s not that we’ve been purposely trying to hide anything from you. It’s just that you have been exposed to stuff earlier than we figured.</p>
<p>We wish it had been otherwise.  We would have preferred that you had knowledgeable mentors to guide you through your discovery of all these difficult issues.  We were aware of them and decided not to share them or at least not promote discussion of them in the church <a title="Church curriculum" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Curriculum">curriculum</a>.  We are seeing now that this may have been a mistake.  It was not our intention to deceive you.</p>
<p><strong>Personal responsibility</strong></p>
<p>We understand that many of you have felt shocked and betrayed when you first learn about these things.  Please don’t lose faith in the entire <a title="CES" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Church_Educational_System">church teaching system</a> that has brought you to the point you are now.  We should have found a way to inoculate you before you encountered these troublesome issues but were concerned that exposing you to them early could also be disastrous.</p>
<p>Please accept our apologies for not teaching you about these things in a more open and honest manner.  We accept the responsibility for our failings in this area and will work harder in the future to ensure that the upcoming generation does not have to suffer what you went through.  But we hope that you will also be just as responsible for your own <a title="Church History" href="http://www.lds.org/churchhistory">church history education</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Summary and conclusion</strong></p>
<p>This is obviously just a thought exercise.  Please don’t seriously think that my ponderings here have anything to do with the reality of the way the church is responding to this problem.  You may legitimately wonder if some leaders in the church are even aware that this problem exists.  Perhaps those that are aware feel just as frustrated as you that we don’t address it more openly.</p>
<p>For those that have struggled or are struggling with questions like those I have listed, please be aware that there are many thousands of us who have faced and answered the same questions.  We recognize their potential impact to destroy faith, but have found that <a title="God is faithful" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_cor/10/13#13">God is faithful</a> and will send peace to the troubled heart.  Sometimes satisfactory answers will only come over the test of time.</p>
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		<title>We know the purpose of life</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Institute class last night we studied Abraham chapter three. If you are not familiar with the Pearl of Great Price, this is the chapter that contains one of the most glorious and powerful doctrines of the LDS faith about &#8230; <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/we-know-the-purpose-of-life/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PQ20a3fjz14/SHXwoDQF3cI/AAAAAAAAAjA/RAvupl667XI/s1600-h/NealAMaxwell.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PQ20a3fjz14/SHXwoDQF3cI/AAAAAAAAAjA/RAvupl667XI/s200/NealAMaxwell.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5221343913864191426" border="0" /></a>In <a href="http://institute.lds.org/">Institute class</a> last night we studied <a href="http://www.ldsces.org/inst_manuals/pgp/manualindex.asp">Abraham chapter three</a>.  If you are not familiar with the <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/pgp/contents">Pearl of Great Price</a>, this is the chapter that contains one of the most glorious and powerful doctrines of the LDS faith about our <a href="http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/heavenly-father-s-plan-of-salvation/you-lived-with-god">premortal or pre-earth life</a>.</p>
<p>Somebody correct me if they know otherwise, but I believe we are unique among the Christian world in our belief in the purpose of life that is based on this chapter.  We believe that we have always existed as intelligences, and were placed in spirit bodies before being born into mortality.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">And we will prove them herewith</span><br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones;</p>
<p>And God saw that they were good, and he stood in the midst of them, and he said: These I will make my rulers; for he stood among those that were spirits, and he saw that they were good; and he said unto me: Abraham, thou art one of them; thou wast chosen before thou wast born.</p>
<p>And there stood one among them that was like unto God, and he said unto those who were with him: We will go down, for there is space there, and we will take of these materials, and we will make an earth whereon these may dwell;</p>
<p>And we will prove them herewith, to see if they will do all things whatsoever the Lord their God shall command them;</p>
<p>And they who keep their first estate shall be added upon; and they who keep not their first estate shall not have glory in the same kingdom with those who keep their first estate; and they who keep their second estate shall have glory added upon their heads for ever and ever.&#8221;</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/abr/3/22-26#22">Abraham 3:22-26</a></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">The purpose of life</span></p>
<p>There have been volumes written about the significance of these verses.  The simple summary is that we are here on this earth as spirits within physical bodies to be tried and tested.  We are here to see if we will be true to the light and truth that we received in our pre-earth life.</p>
<p>No, we do not believe in reincarnation.  This is our first and only opportunity for mortality.  We were among the noble and great ones that the Lord showed to Abraham in these verses.  We are here to develop faith, which is power and to increase in intelligence, or light and truth.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">We agreed to this test</span></p>
<p>&#8220;Premortality is not a relaxing doctrine. For each of us, there are choices to be made, incessant and difficult chores to be done, ironies and adversities to be experienced, time to be well spent, talents and gifts to be well employed. Just because we were chosen &#8216;there and then,&#8217; surely does not mean we can be indifferent &#8216;here and now.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;In fact, adequacy in the first estate may merely have ensured a stern, second estate with more duties and no immunities! Additional tutoring and suffering appears to be the pattern for the Lord’s most apt pupils. (See <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/3/19#19">Mosiah 3:19</a>; <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_pet/4/19#19">1 Pet. 4:19</a>.) Our existence, therefore, is a continuum matched by God’s stretching curriculum.</p>
<p>&#8220;Agreeing to enter this second estate, therefore, was like agreeing in advance to anesthetic—the anesthetic of forgetfulness. Doctors do not de-anesthetize a patient, in the midst of what was previously authorized, to ask him, again, if it should be continued. We agreed to come here and to undergo certain experiences under certain conditions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Source: Neal A. Maxwell, <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=d6c38949f2f6b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;hideNav=1">General Conference, October 1985</a></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">The glory of God is intelligence</span><br />
<blockquote>Man was also in the beginning with God.  Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be.</p>
<p>All truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself, as all intelligence also; otherwise there is no existence.</p>
<p>Behold, here is the agency of man, and here is the condemnation of man; because that which was from the beginning is plainly manifest unto them, and they receive not the light.</p>
<p>And every man who receiveth not the light is under condemnation.</p>
<p>For man is spirit.  The elements are eternal, and spirit and element, inseparably connected, receive a fulness of joy;</p>
<p>And when separated, man cannot receive a fulness of joy.</p>
<p>The elements are the tabernacle of God; yea, man is the tabernacle of God, even temples; and whatsoever temple is defiled, God shall destroy that temple.</p>
<p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">The glory of God is intelligence, or, in other words, light and truth</span>.</p>
<p>Light and truth forsake that evil one.</p>
<p>Every spirit of man was innocent in the beginning; and God having redeemed man from the fall, men became again, in their infant state, innocent before God.</p>
<p>And that wicked one cometh and taketh away light and truth, through disobedience, from the children of men, and because of the tradition of their fathers.</p>
<p>But I have commanded you to bring up your children in light and truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/93/29-40#29">D</a><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/93/29-40#29">&amp;C 93:29-40</a></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Summary and Conclusion</span></p>
<p>For most members of the LDS church this is not new doctrine.  We grow up with this stuff, having been taught it all our lives.  But for those who are not of our faith, this is new and different.  I submit that it is also one of the most powerful doctrines that we offer to the world.</p>
<p>We know our purpose in life.  We know that this life is a test.  We know we are here to prove ourselves faithful and worthy of the glory that God wants bestow upon us.  We prepare for the glory by learning all we can, increasing our intelligence in order to receive more light and truth.</p>
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		<title>Doctrines of the Book of Abraham</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Anthony Larson]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[In our Institute class last night we began to study the Book of Abraham. The instructor covered the origins of the book in short order. None of the students had any questions about the papyri or the mummies or the &#8230; <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/doctrines-of-the-book-of-abraham/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_PQ20a3fjz14/SFp4_twMlvI/AAAAAAAAAhI/57bQJTrP6T4/s1600-h/Facsimile1.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_PQ20a3fjz14/SFp4_twMlvI/AAAAAAAAAhI/57bQJTrP6T4/s200/Facsimile1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5213612554643609330" border="0" /></a>In our Institute class last night we began to study the Book of Abraham.  The instructor covered the origins of the book in short order.  None of the students had any questions about the papyri or the mummies or the translation process or the discovery of the fragments.  Neither did I as <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.blogspot.com/2008/04/objections-to-book-of-abraham.html">I have written about this previously</a>.  The Book of Abraham contains much unique LDS doctrine.</p>
<p>Note the facsimile above.  It is a print from a woodcut that Joseph asked an early member of the church to make.  It has accompanied the Book of Abraham each time it has been printed.  It is simply fascinating and depicts Abraham being sacrificed on the altar by the priest of the Pharaoh.  He was saved by the angel.</p>
<p>Even though Abraham was in Chaldea, many miles away, the government and religion of Egypt were dominant in the civilized world at that time, about 2000 B.C.  The world had been inundated by the flood some 400 years earlier so there were not a lot of people on the earth.  One of the descendants of Ham, one of the sons of Noah, settled Egypt.  The name Egypt signifies that which is forbidden.  So the line of Cain had been preserved through Egyptus, the wife of Ham.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">The early heavens were different</span></p>
<p>I have been anxious to reread the Book of Abraham so although we only covered chapter one last night, I moved ahead in my readings through chapters two and three.  I stopped excitedly on <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/abr/3/5#5">chapter three, verse five</a> because I read this in a different light than I have ever done before.  First let me share the verse and then I will share why I was so excited when I read it.  The exciting part for me has to do with what I learned as I recently reread the works of Anthony Larson.<br />
<blockquote>And the Lord said unto me: The planet which is the lesser light, lesser than that which is to rule the day, even the night, is above or greater than that upon which thou standest in point of reckoning, for it moveth in order more slow; this is in order because it standeth above the earth upon which thou standest, therefore the reckoning of its time is not so many as to its number of days, and of months, and of years. (Abraham 3:5)</p></blockquote>
<p>This is the Lord talking to Abraham.  What is the planet which is referred to in this verse?  What does He mean, &#8220;the lesser light?&#8221;  Is he referring to some far-away planet or star?  We can surmise that the greater light is the sun, but I believe the lesser light refers to a mini-star that used to reside above the Earth, roughly in the region of the North Pole.  It was very close to the Earth and took up a large portion of the sky.  &#8220;It standeth above the earth.&#8221;  That is very clear.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">The cause of the great flood</span></p>
<p>This is fascinating stuff.  What would have been the effects of having a large planet or mini-star standing above the earth?  Were they somehow joined by some sort of electromagnetic pull or attraction?  Did the larger planet revolve more slowly, perhaps according to the Lord&#8217;s time?  We know that a day with the Lord is a thousand years with man.  Perhaps that can help explain why men lived so many hundreds of years back in the early days in the time of the patriarchs.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span>I wonder also if the planet was at one time very close &#8211; so close that the water of the earth was pulled up towards the north pole.  Wouldn&#8217;t that be a logical explanation for the cause of the great flood if the planet moved off to stand further away from the earth?  All the water that was in the Northern regions of the earth would have come down and deluged civilization.  The end result would be that the waters of the earth would be more like they are today.</p>
<p>And where did the city of Enoch go?  Isn&#8217;t it possible that when the Lord says he took it unto his bosom that he raised up a large portion of the earth and that it was also hovering about the earth for a little while?  That would explain why the inhabitants of the earth tried to build the tower of Babel.  They wanted to get to the city of Enoch that was just out of reach in the heavens.  We read about that in Moses chapter seven in our institute class a few weeks ago.  Fascinating stuff!</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">The works of Anthony Larson</span></p>
<p>The only person I have ever read that understands this is <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.blogspot.com/2008/01/mormon-doctrine-prophecy-and-last-days.html">Anthony Larson</a>.  Perhaps you have heard of his books, <a href="http://www.mormonprophecy.com/prophecy,_ancient_history_and_the_restored_gospel.htm">the Prophecy trilogy</a>.  The Internet is an amazing thing.  We can get to know people that we would never have been able to meet otherwise.  I mentioned Anthony&#8217;s books in a post <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.blogspot.com/2008/01/short-chapters-are-more-readable.html">back in January</a>.  He responded to my post and we began an email dialog that has been most rewarding. If you have not read the works of Anthony Larson, I highly recommend them.</p>
<p>I admit that the stuff I am proposing is not standard orthodox LDS teachings.  As far as I know, my interpretation of Abraham 3:5 is not taught in seminary or institute classes.  There is no way to prove these ideas but they make so much sense to me.  I guess we may have to wait until the Lord chooses to reveal all things someday before we will know if it just might have been this way.  I am indebted to Anthony Larson for proposing it, but I accept it as being what happened.</p>
<p>You can read more about Anthony and his amazing interpretations of the scriptures on <a href="http://www.mormonprophecy.com/prophecy,_ancient_history_and_the_restored_gospel.htm">his website</a>.  He offers free email newsletters and has a wealth of information that he is willing to share with anyone who is interested.  He is no crackpot.  I have read the majority of his stuff and find him to be completely rational and highly intelligent.  I consider him a man ahead of his time.  I believe we will see the day when his theories are proven correct and fully justified.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Summary and conclusion</span></p>
<p>What does any of this have to do with our salvation?  Is knowing and understanding what is contained in the Pearl of Great Price critical to our happiness?  You&#8217;ve got to admit that the contents of the Book of Moses and the Book of Abraham are not understood or appreciated by any other church.  They do not know of it or accept it if they do.  Nevertheless, the doctrines in these scriptures are fundamental to our theology that adds so much to our lives.</p>
<p>I submit that the material found in the Pearl of Great Price is also not understood by the majority of the members of the LDS Church.  There are some fundamental doctrines there that are found nowhere else in our scriptures.  Most notably, the idea of the pre-earth life or our premortal existence and a more complete understanding of the creation of the world and the fall of Adam than what is found in the Bible. I for one am so grateful for additional revelation!</p>
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		<title>Objections to the Book of Abraham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My focus over the last dozen posts has been in answering, even if only for myself, some of the more common objections to LDS doctrine or practices. One that you can find frequently in lists made by critics of the &#8230; <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/objections-to-the-book-of-abraham/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PQ20a3fjz14/R_sfJT5yboI/AAAAAAAAAbU/sEA2FCmbTws/s1600-h/Facsimile1.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5186773640669195906" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; CURSOR: pointer" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PQ20a3fjz14/R_sfJT5yboI/AAAAAAAAAbU/sEA2FCmbTws/s200/Facsimile1.jpg" border="0" /></a>My focus over the last dozen posts has been in answering, even if only for myself, some of the more common objections to LDS doctrine or practices. One that you can find frequently in lists made by critics of the Church is the validity of <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/abr/1">The Book of Abraham</a> as found in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/pgp/contents">The Pearl of Great Price</a>, part of the canonized scripture of <a href="http://www.lds.org/">The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints</a>.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: I don&#8217;t claim to be an authority on the subject. I write this from the point of view of a common, regular member of the church. I don&#8217;t have a problem with the Book of Abraham and never have. To me it is scripture and I love the things I have learned from it over the years. I just want to understand what the objections are and how they can be easily answered by a simple kind of guy like me.</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><u>How we got the Book of Abraham</u></span></p>
<p>The Book of Abraham is a translation of some Egyptian papyri containing the writings of the prophet Abraham. The papyri came into the hands of Joseph Smith in 1835 and contain writings of the patriarch Abraham. The translation was published serially in the Times and Seasons beginning March 1, 1842, at Nauvoo, Illinois. See History of the Church, vol. 4, pp. 519-534.</p>
<p>In July 1835, an Irishman named Michael Chandler brought a traveling exhibition of four Egyptian mummies and papyri to Kirtland, Ohio. The papyri contained Egyptian hieroglyphics. The ability to translate Egyptian to English had not yet been discovered or developed. Chandler asked Joseph Smith to look at the scrolls and give some insight into what was written on them.</p>
<p>After reviewing the papyri and giving Chandler a description of parts of the scrolls, Joseph Smith and others purchased the four mummies and at least five papyrus documents. Joseph declared that two of the scrolls contained the writings of Abraham and Joseph of Egypt. He translated the majority of the Book of Abraham text in July of 1835 with some minor revisions in 1842.</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><u>Loss and recovery of the papyri</u></span></p>
<p>After Joseph Smith&#8217;s death, his mother maintained the mummies and papyri, even showing them to interested visitors on occasion. After her death in 1856, Emma sold them to Mr. Abel Combs. Combs then sold two mummies with some papyri to the St. Louis Museum. In 1863 they went to the Chicago Museum, where they were apparently burned in the Great Chicago Fire.</p>
<p>The other mummies were lost, but some papyri survived. In 1947, the New York Metropolitan Museum of Art acquired some additional papyri from a daughter of Combs&#8217;s housekeeper. Aziz Suryal Atiya of the University of Utah found eleven fragments of the remaining papyri in May 1966, after he recognized the image of Facsimile 1 in the Pearl of Great Price on one of them.</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><u>The three main objections</u></span></p>
<p><span style="COLOR: rgb(255,0,0); FONT-STYLE: italic">Critics claim that the translation is a fraud</span>. The original papyri containing some of the source material for the Book of Abraham has been found and translated. The content has been shown to be an Egyptian funeral text known as the Book of Breathings. There does not appear to be any connection to Abraham. His name does not appear anywhere in the papyri or the facsimiles.</p>
<p><span style="COLOR: rgb(255,0,0); FONT-STYLE: italic">Critics claim that the facsimiles are interpreted incorrectly</span>. In fact, they do not seem to bear any similarity to translations provided by modern Egyptologists of the text in the figures. These critics claim that this proves that Joseph had no prophetic gift and was a fraud. They have called for the church to denounce the Book of Abraham as an embarrassment and stop covering it up.</p>
<p><span style="COLOR: rgb(255,0,0); FONT-STYLE: italic">Critics claim that the content of the Book is pure imagination</span>. They claim that what is found in Joseph Smith&#8217;s translation is inconsistent with what we know about Abraham and ancient Egypt from the Bible and other sources. In the book are found many unique and important LDS doctrines, including the exaltation of man, plurality of gods, priesthood, and a pre-mortal life.</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><u>My three simple answers</u></span></p>
<p>I do not believe that the original source material used to translate the Book of Abraham has been found like the critics claim. What has been recovered was only part of the collection. The papyri that Joseph used to translate the Book of Abraham was either destroyed in the great Chicago fire or has yet to be found. There is also the theory that it was a revelation and not a translation.</p>
<p>I prefer to accept Joseph&#8217;s translations or interpretations of the figures and text in the facsimiles over what modern Egyptologists have produced. There are so many things that we don&#8217;t know about ancient Egypt. The discovery and study of the antiquities that are still being produced is a relatively new science. Perhaps the figures were symbolic and not to be interpreted literally.</p>
<p>As noted previously, I love the content of the Book of Abraham for the very reason that critics complain that it cannot possibly be correct &#8211; because it is not contained in creeds of orthodox Christianity. The Book of Abraham provides a rich and deep foundation for understanding the purpose of life. It truly is a blessing from God to have this scripture to increase my testimony.</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><u>Summary and Conclusion</u></span></p>
<p>I know the topic is so much more complex than I have presented in this brief post. This has been a subject of criticism for almost 150 years but one which the majority of the members of the Church have been unaware. Even those like me that are aware of the controversy don&#8217;t seem to be concerned or affected by the criticisms or the implied consequences if proven true.</p>
<p>For some, there are many unanswered questions about the Book of Abraham. I do not have any. For me, it is sufficient that Joseph said he translated the book from papyri that fell into his hands. I believe him. I can even accept the theory that he may have just used the papyri as a catalyst to trigger revelation. The Book of Abraham is scripture and I accept it as doctrine.</p>
<p>For more information please refer to <a href="http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_Abraham.shtml">Jeff Lindsay&#8217;s exceptional and exhaustive coverage</a> of the controversy, including excellent answers to the objections and recent new favorable evidence. Two additional great sources are the <a href="http://www.boap.org/">Book of Abraham Project</a> and the <a href="http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/display/topical.php?cat_id=308">BYU Maxwell Institute</a>.</p>
<p>Additional material from FAIR:</p>
<p>1. <a href="http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Abraham_papyri:FAQ">Book of Abraham FAQ</a><br />2. <a href="http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Abraham_papyri">Summary and criticisms</a><br />3. <a href="http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Abraham/Papyri/Long_article">Detailed response to criticisms</a><br />4. <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Book_of_Abraham">Encyclopedia of Mormonism</a></p>
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