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		<title>Divine manifestations must have a purpose</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the delightful parts of a stake temple night is the opportunity to be taught by a member of the temple presidency.  I once asked my stake president about divine manifastations in the temple. <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/divine-manifestations-must-have-a-purpose/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-436" title="elijahkey" src="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/elijahkey-150x150.jpg" alt="elijahkey" width="150" height="150" />One of the delightful parts of a <a title="Stake" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Stake">stake</a> <a title="Mormon Temples" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Mormon_Temples">temple</a> night is the opportunity to be taught by a member of the <a title="Temple President" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Temple_President">temple presidency</a>.  On one particular occasion many years ago, the Temple President felt inspired to relate a few stories that patrons had shared with him about <a title="Manifestations" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/tg/m/34">spiritual manifestations</a> that they had received while serving in the <a title="Los Angeles" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Los_Angeles_California_Temple">LA temple</a>.  It was an uplifting and edifying session.</p>
<p>I was very impressed with what the Temple President spoke about that evening.  He related some very sacred experiences of visits from the other side of <a title="Veil" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/gs/v/2">the veil</a> from deceased family members for whom the <a title="Temple Ordinances" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Temple_Ordinances">work</a> was being done.  He gave specific examples of what people saw, heard or felt that was evidence to them of the validity of this work and that it is accepted by their relatives.</p>
<p><strong>A conversation with my Stake President</strong></p>
<p>While preparing to leave the temple that evening, I conversed with my <a title="Stake President" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Stake_President">Stake President</a> about the things the Temple President had taught us in our chapel session.  I had served with this Stake President for several years on the <a title="High Council" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/High_Council">High Council</a> and felt comfortable sharing heartfelt concerns.  I knew that he would carefully consider what I had to say before answering with thoughtfulness.</p>
<p>“President”, I said, “I’ve been coming to this temple <a title="My experience with the temple" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/my-experience-with-the-temple/">since I was twelve years old</a>.  In fact, I was six years old when I was sealed here to my parents.  I have <a title="Blessings of the Temple" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-blessings-of-the-lds-temple/">many sacred memories</a> of this place.  I was <a title="Temple endowment" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Temple_endowment">endowed</a> here when I was nineteen and married to my sweetheart not too many years after completing <a title="Teach and testify" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-teaching-and-testifying-missionary/">my mission</a>.  I have participated in several thousand <a title="Ordinances" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Ordinances">ordinances</a> here in this temple.</p>
<p><strong>Sacred temple manifestations</strong></p>
<p>“So why is it that I have never experienced any of these kinds of sacred manifestations that the temple president described?”  As I expected, he thought for a few minutes while we continued to change back into our street clothes after the evening’s temple work was completed.  After a moment, he paused, put his hand on my shoulder and then responded very slowly and carefully.</p>
<p>“Brother Malone, some people do not require manifestations to be faithful.  The Lord knows their hearts and knows what they need.  You apparently do not need any additional evidence that the work being performed in these temples is valid and acceptable to both the Lord and to those for whom it is performed.  Your years of faithfulness are proof that you know the work is true.”</p>
<p><strong>The Lord bears witness</strong></p>
<p>He was right, of course.  I didn’t need a manifestation to know that the work being done in the <a title="Temples" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Temples">temples</a> is of eternal significance and validity.  I had known that since I was a child and had never doubted it.  I thought about his response and realized that there was never an occasion when I attended the temple that I didn’t feel the warmth and comfort of <a title="Holy Ghost" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Holy_Ghost">the spirit of the Lord.</a></p>
<p>It was just another piece of evidence to me that the Spirit of the Lord is always present when <a title="Ordinances" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Ordinances">priesthood ordinances</a> are performed, especially in <a title="House of the Lord" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?index=20&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=b1747c2fc20b8010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=bbd508f54922d010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">the House of the Lord</a>.  I didn’t need any additional evidence because I had the <a title="Gift of the Holy Ghost" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Gift_of_the_Holy_Ghost">constant companionship</a> of the Lord each time I sat in an endowment session or knelt across the <a title="Inside a Mormon Temple" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Inside_Mormon_Temples">altar in a sealing</a> session.  Yes, I knew the work was true.</p>
<p><strong>To uplift and edify</strong></p>
<p>I have the same kind of experience each week when I attend <a title="Sacrament meeting" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Sacrament_Meeting">Sacrament meeting</a>, and especially in a <a title="Testimony meeting" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Fast_and_Testimony_Meeting">testimony meeting</a>.  There is just something special about attending church each week and partaking of the <a title="Sacrament" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Sacrament">Sacrament</a>.  I just feel different by the end of the meeting.  I feel happy and feel that my burdens have been lifted.  It never fails.  I feel this strengthening each week after church.</p>
<p>This uplifting feeling is always the same whether I am conducting the meeting as a member of the <a title="Bishopric" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Bishopric">Bishopric</a>, or just sitting in the congregation as a regular member of the ward.  I love to hear members of my ward teach the gospel from the pulpit and share their feelings about the truth of what they have learned and have taught.  Sacrament meeting is always uplifting and edifying.</p>
<p><strong>Testimony meetings</strong></p>
<p>Last Sunday I sat in our monthly ward testimony meeting and thought about the different kinds of <a title="Testimony" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Testimony">testimonies</a> I was hearing.  The Bishop was short and succinct.  He bore witness of the <a title="Elder Oaks on Testimony" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=8502558fcc599110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">five basic points</a> of an LDS testimony and then sat down, inviting others to share their testimonies.  I got up and rambled a little bit about testimonies and then bore witness of the same five points.</p>
<p>As we progressed through the meeting, I noted that some members talked about experiences that demonstrated to them that the Lord knew them personally and that he hears and answers their <a title="Prayer" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Prayer">prayers</a>.  Others spoke about the <a title="Trials" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Trials">trials</a> through which they were passing and then concluded with assertions that they knew the Lord loved them would not leave them comfortless in their trials.</p>
<p><strong>When we say “I know”</strong></p>
<p>I listened very closely to each testimony waiting for the phrases “I know” and “I believe.”  I think I heard “I believe” maybe once or twice.  “I know” was used by the majority of those who shared their testimonies.  I know these people and know that when they say that they know that the church is true, and that the <a title="Book of Mormon" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Book_of_Mormon">Book of Mormon</a> is the word of God, they mean it sincerely.</p>
<p>I was listening closely because of <a title="There is no middle ground" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/there-is-no-middle-ground/">recent conversation</a> with readers of my blog about testimonies and what it means to say <a title="Only true and living church" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-only-true-and-living-church/">the church is true</a>.  I now try to qualify what I mean when I say that by adding some additional phrases like, “because <a title="Angels" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Angels">angels</a> conferred <a title="Keys of the Priesthood" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Keys_of_the_Priesthood">priesthood keys</a> upon the Prophet <a title="Joseph Smith" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Joseph_Smith">Joseph Smith</a>,” and “because angels <a title="Ordination to the Priesthood" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Ordination_to_the_Priesthood">ordained</a> Joseph Smith and gave him priesthood authority.”</p>
<p><strong>Authority and the true church</strong></p>
<p>You see, this <a title="Authority" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Authority">authority</a> thing is very important to me.  I’ve had a lot of dialogs with visitors to Latter-day Commentary about this very important subject.  I’ve tried to share with them that the idea of priesthood authority is one of the most important aspects of a church that claims to be the true church of Jesus Christ.  Ordinances of <a title="Salvation" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Salvation">salvation</a> require God’s authority to perform them.</p>
<p>That’s all we really mean when we say that we are the true church.  We are simply saying that angels came from the <a title="Spirit world" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Spirit_World">spirit world</a> and gave Joseph Smith divine permission to do what he did in establishing the Church of Jesus Christ upon the earth again in these latter days.  Of course, the idea that angels have visited man in our day is a very difficult thing for some people to accept.</p>
<p><strong>Angels, visions and revelation</strong></p>
<p>I have never seen an angel.  I have had no divine <a title="Visions" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Visions">vision</a> with my natural eyes.  I have never heard an audible voice from the spirit world. Yet I have never questioned that <a title="First Vision" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/First_Vision">Joseph Smith saw God</a>, was visited by <a title="Moroni" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Moroni">angels</a>, <a title="Doctrine and Covenants" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Doctrine_and_Covenants">received revelations</a> and brought forth the Book of Mormon by the <a title="D&amp;C 1:29" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/1/29#29">gift and power of God</a>.  Some of my readers find it fantastic that I can believe Joseph was a <a title="Mormon prophet" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Mormon_prophet">prophet</a>.</p>
<p>How is this possible?  On what basis do I stand and say “I know that God lives, that Jesus is the Christ, that the Book of Mormon is the word of God, that Joseph was a prophet and that this is the true church of Jesus Christ with a prophet at the head today?”  If I have not seen God or Jesus, and was not there when Joseph brought forth the Book or Mormon, <a title="What do Mormon's believe" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/What_do_Mormons_believe">how am I a witness</a>?</p>
<p><strong>Divine manifestations must have a purpose</strong></p>
<p>In all my years in this church, I don’t think I have ever met anyone who said to me, “Yes, I saw God.  He visited me and told me…”  I have never had someone say to me, “I was praying very earnestly one night and the Lord appeared to me to tell me that he loved me and that my sins were forgiven.”  I have also never heard anyone relate to me that they were visited by an angel.</p>
<p>Now perhaps you know people who have received such manifestations or maybe you have been the recipient of angelic visitations.  I think that’s wonderful.  I assume the visits had a purpose.  I guess I’ve never felt the need for divine manifestations beyond what I <a title="While at Rick's College" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/a-different-kind-of-religious-education/">have already received</a> when I was young as I prayed to know that the Book of Mormon was indeed the word of God.</p>
<p><strong>We live far beneath our privileges</strong></p>
<p>When I was seventeen I was extremely motivated to obtain a manifestation from God about my standing before him and to know if the Book of Mormon was what Joseph said it was.  I obtained both of those witnesses and <a title="Answered prayers before Mission" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/a-call-for-more-personal-revelation/">a few more</a> that the Lord felt were needed in order to help me fulfill my purpose in life.  I’ve been coasting on those manifestations for the past thirty-five years.</p>
<p>I’m wondering if I’ve been coasting too long.  Our former stake president, now serving as a mission president, often repeated this from <a title="Brigham Young" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Brigham_Young">Brigham Young</a>.  He said, “[We] may have the Spirit of the Lord to . . . direct [us]. . . . I am satisfied, however, that, in this respect, <a title="From Discourses of Brigham Young" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=71719c84f5d6b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">we live far beneath our privileges</a>.&#8221;  Is there more the Lord wants us to have besides what he has already given us?</p>
<p><strong>Summary and conclusion</strong></p>
<p>The Lord reveals himself to man when he has a purpose or a mission for them to perform.  He sends angels to instruct man and teach him about the work that he wants performed.  He sends his spirit to assure men and women that the work in which they are engaged is divine.  He gives <a title="Gifts of he spirit" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Gifts_of_the_Spirit">gifts of the spirit</a> to help us do his work.  For Joseph, one needed gift was the <a title="Gift of translation" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/5/4,30#4">power to translate</a>.</p>
<p>When I needed to know that the church and the Book of Mormon were of divine origin, the Lord sent his spirit and confirmed these things in my heart and mind.  Over the years, that same spirit has encouraged and motivated me to ever increasing faithfulness and obedience.  Is the Lord willing to provide additional manifestations, and if so, what is the purpose they would serve?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the priesthood session of the April 2003 General Conference, President Hinckley delivered a landmark address on the subject of loyalty.   In his remarks he said, “Each of us has to face the truth of the matter—either the church is &#8230; <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/there-is-no-middle-ground/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-398" title="preshinckley" src="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/preshinckley-150x150.jpg" alt="preshinckley" width="150" height="150" />In the <a title="Priesthood" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Priesthood">priesthood</a> session of the <a title="April 2003 General Conference" href="http://lds.org/conference/sessions/display/0,5239,23-1-353,00.html">April 2003</a> <a title="General Conference" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/General_Conference">General Conference</a>, <a title="President Hinckley" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Gordon_B._Hinckley">President Hinckley</a> delivered a landmark address on the subject of <a title="Loyalty" href="http://lds.org/conference/talk/display/0,5232,23-1-353-21,00.html">loyalty</a>.   In his remarks he said, “Each of us has to face the truth of the matter—either the church is true, or it is a fraud.  <strong><em>There is no middle ground</em></strong>.  It is the Church and <a title="Kingdom of God" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Kingdom_of_God">kingdom of God</a> or it is nothing.”</p>
<p>An earlier prophet, <a title="Joseph Fielding Smith" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Joseph_Fielding_Smith">Joseph Fielding Smith</a> wrote something similar in the <a title="Doctrines of Salvation" href="http://deseretbook.com/store/product/5020291">Doctrines of Salvation:</a> “<a title="Mormonism" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Mormonism">Mormonism</a>, as it is called, must stand on the story of <a title="Joseph Smith" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Joseph_Smith">Joseph Smith</a>.  He was either a <a title="Mormon Prophet" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Prophet">prophet of God</a>, divinely called, properly appointed and commissioned, or he was one of the biggest frauds this world has ever seen.  <strong><em>There is no middle ground</em></strong>.”</p>
<p><strong>There can be no gray area</strong></p>
<p>Referring to the historical events of the area around <a title="Palmyra" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Palmyra">Palmyra</a>, New York, President Hinckley said: “They either happened or they did not. There can be no gray area, <strong><em>no middle ground</em></strong>.”   In a similar manner, Apostle <a title="Joseph B Wirthlin" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Joseph_B._Wirthlin">Joseph B. Wirthlin</a> said, “Joseph Smith must be accepted either as a prophet of God or else as a charlatan of the first order.”</p>
<p><a title="President Benson" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Ezra_Taft_Benson">President Benson</a> endorsed this all or nothing view.  He said, “Just as the arch crumbles if the keystone is removed, so does all the Church stand or fall with the truthfulness of the <a title="Book of Mormon" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Book_of_Mormon">Book of Mormon</a>…if it can be discredited, the Prophet Joseph Smith goes with it. So does our claim to <a title="Priesthood Keys" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Keys_of_the_Priesthood">priesthood keys</a>, and <a title="Revelation" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Revelation">revelation</a>, and the <a title="Restoration" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Restoration">restored Church</a>.”</p>
<p><strong>They were all wrong</strong></p>
<p>Such black and white statements go all the way back to the beginnings of the <a title="LDS Church" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints">LDS church</a>.  When the prophet Joseph asked God <a title="JS-H 1:18-19" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/18-19#18">which church he should join</a>, he “was answered that I must join none of them, for <strong><em>they were all wrong</em></strong>.”  If all the churches of Joseph’s day were wrong, what does that say about the numerous churches of our day?</p>
<p>The Lord later said to Joseph in <a title="D&amp;C 1:29-30" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/1/29-30#29">Section one</a> of the <a title="Doctrine and Covenants" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Doctrine_and_Covenants">Doctrine and Covenants</a> that the church Joseph organized was “the <strong><em>only true and living church</em></strong> upon the face of the whole earth.”  If you look, you can find dozens of similar statements by prophets and apostles throughout the history of our church, all very bold in their declarations.</p>
<p><strong>Divisive and exclusivist</strong></p>
<p>Of course, statements like these are labeled divisive and exclusivist by many people outside our church, but also, increasingly by members on the fringe of the church, also known as the <a title="DAMU" href="http://mormonism.suite101.com/article.cfm/disaffected_mormon_underground">disaffected Mormon underground</a>.  The DAMU is nothing new.  There have been <a title="Cultural Mormon" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Mormon">cultural Mormons</a> and <a title="Jack Mormon" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Mormon">Jack Mormons</a> throughout the history of our church.</p>
<p>Of all the objections to the church that I have encountered over the past few years I have been blogging, this one seems to be the most common and the most offensive.  For some, it is an extremely difficult proposition to accept this black or white, all or nothing approach to <a title="Truth in Religion" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Truth">truth in religion</a>.  I have spent considerable time pondering why this is so.</p>
<p><strong>Good and truth in all religions</strong></p>
<p>Joseph Smith taught that we accept truth from whatever source it may come.  <a title="Joseph F. Smith" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Joseph_F._Smith">Joseph F. Smith</a> said, “We are willing to <a title="Gospel Doctrine, p.1" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=66a205481ae6b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">receive all truth, from whatever source</a> it may come; for truth will stand, truth will endure…”  Modern prophets have said that there is much good and truth in all churches and religions.  This statement doesn’t seem too limiting.</p>
<p>President Hinckley: “We recognize the <a title="Good in all churches" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=c069dbdcc370c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">good in all churches</a>. We recognize the value of religion generally. We say to everyone: live the teachings which you have received from your church. We invite you to come and learn from us, to see if we can <em><strong>add to those teachings</strong></em> and enhance your life and your understanding of things sacred and divine.”</p>
<p><strong>Something unique to add</strong></p>
<p>What can the LDS faith add that is unique and will bless the lives of those who accept its teachings?  The most unique thing we offer can be found in the <a title="Mormon temples" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Mormon_Temples">temples</a>.  It is the <a title="Sealing Power" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Sealing#Sealing_Power">sealing power</a> that is exercised to unite families in an eternal bond that will remain in effect after this life is over.  That is an amazing claim that no other church can make.</p>
<p>We teach that the sealing power is a part of the <a title="Priesthood Authority" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Priesthood_Authority">priesthood authority</a> that we claim was delivered to Joseph Smith via angelic messengers.  I don’t know of any other church that asserts that <a title="Angels" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Angels">angels</a> have come and ordained their leaders or conferred upon them <a title="Section 110" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/110">keys and powers</a> that will <a title="Matt 16:19" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/16/19#19">bind on earth and in heaven</a>.  That is a fantastic declaration!</p>
<p><strong>Our eternal nature</strong></p>
<p>The older I get, the more important that claim becomes to me.  If I know nothing else, I know that there is a <a title="Spirit body" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Spirit_Body">spiritual side</a> of my existence.  I have had too many experiences of a spiritual nature that have helped me to understand this truth.  Others may claim that there is nothing more to man than skin, muscle and bones, but I believe differently.</p>
<p>Because of that very basic and core fundamental belief about myself, I am concerned about what my <a title="Purpose of life" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Purpose_of_Life">purpose is in life</a> and <a title="Spirit world" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Spirit_World">what happens after death</a>.  I am so grateful to be a part of a community of faith, a church that believes as I do that life is eternal and that what we do with our lives will have a significant impact on the quality of life hereafter.</p>
<p><strong>Importance of the temples</strong></p>
<p>That belief in <a title="John 17:2-3" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/john/17/2-3#2">life eternal</a> is not unique, but the idea that we can do something to ensure that the relationships we enjoy here continue in the hereafter is very unique indeed.  I have had dialog with visitors to my blog who claim that God would never be so mean as to separate a loving couple who cherished and served each other all their mortal lives.</p>
<p>I’m not going to point you to any <a title="Celestial marriage" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Celestial_marriage">statements from church leaders</a> that teach otherwise but I will say this: before you go making claims about how God should behave, you might want to be absolutely sure of what God has said on the subject.  I can’t think of anything about which I would want to be surer.  My eternal happiness depends on it.</p>
<p><strong>Book of Mormon is still the key</strong></p>
<p>Back to the point of the essay and why prophets have said that there can be <em><strong>no middle ground</strong></em> when it comes to things like authority and revelation and Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon.  My mother, who was a convert to the church, once said to me that as an investigator, she could accept everything about it except the <a title="Book of Mormon" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Book_of_Mormon">Book of Mormon</a>.</p>
<p>It wasn’t until much later in life when she took an <a title="Institute" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Institute">Institute</a> class on the subject that she really began to understand just how important it is to our claims of divine origin.  I love the fact that we do not have <a title="Gold Plates" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Gold_Plates">the plates</a> to “prove” the historicity of the book.  Prophets have taught that the Book of Mormon is a great sifter of those who are honest in heart.</p>
<p><strong>The power of a divine witness</strong></p>
<p>I know there are those who have said that they have tried and failed to obtain a witness of the veracity of the Book of Mormon.  I have had dialog with people both inside and outside the church who have struggled with this.  I confess that I cannot offer a perfect empathy because <a title="Personal Revelation" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/a-call-for-more-personal-revelation/">I received a witness</a> of the truthfulness of the book many years ago.</p>
<p>Because of that divine manifestation to me, not just once but <a title="Testimony at Rick's College" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/a-different-kind-of-religious-education/">on several occasions</a>, I have never doubted the Book of Mormon, or the claims of the prophet Joseph Smith. I understand why the prophets have said that the Book of Mormon is the <a title="Keystone of our religion" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=50db94bf3938b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">keystone of our religion</a> and why our claims of divinity rest upon the veracity of that book.  I also agree with the statement that the <a title="Strength of members" href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=18659209df38b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">strength of this church is in the testimony</a> of each member.</p>
<p><strong>The promise of personal revelation</strong></p>
<p>One of my evangelical visitors once called this security that I feel, <a title="Burning of the bosom" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/burning-of-the-bosom-feelings-from-god/">the Mormon bubble</a>.  He says it is not logical but it makes perfect sense to me.  You can throw out all kinds of arguments about the <a title="Book of Abraham" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/objections-to-the-book-of-abraham/">Book of Abraham</a>, <a title="Plural wives of Joseph" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-plural-wives-of-joseph-smith/">Polyandry</a>, <a title="Post Manifesto polygamy" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/no-such-thing-as-mormon-fundamentalism/">Post-manifesto plural marriage</a>, the <a title="Kinderhook plates" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Kinderhook_plates">Kinderhook Plates</a> or any one a few dozen other things that can be found on the Internet.</p>
<p>None of them bothered me when I first learned about them and none of them do now.  I have written <a title="General Authority subjects" href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/general-authority-training-advanced-subjects/">essays on dozens of these objections</a> and have come to the conclusion that they really aren’t the real problem with why people doubt or leave the church.  In my opinion, those who struggle with these doubts have not received <a title="Apostasy" href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Apostate">personal revelation</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Summary and conclusion</strong></p>
<p>I know that a <a title="Testimony" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Testimony">testimony</a> is a very sacred and personal subject.  I also know that making a generalization like I just did will bring all kinds of protests.  But I stand by it as truth.  If a man has received a <a title="Gift of the Holy Ghost" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Gift_of_the_Holy_Ghost">witness from God</a> that the Book of Mormon is true then God has a responsibility to help that man as he goes through the ensuing <a title="Trials" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Trials">trials</a> of that testimony.</p>
<p>I know that God will help the honest in heart keep their testimonies strong and vibrant.  If we <a title="Gospel Study" href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Bible_Study">study</a> we are going to find out things that will test our witness.  We will then have the opportunity to strengthen and deepen it.  That’s what opposition is for.  We do not have to wallow in doubt.  But those who doubt are welcome while they work things out.</p>
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		<title>The authority I give to prophets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that may seem like a strange title of an essay. What authority could I possibly give to a prophet? We believe and teach in our church that prophets get their authority from God. In fact, the whole concept of &#8230; <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/the-authority-i-give-to-prophets/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PQ20a3fjz14/SOkJIWwAYJI/AAAAAAAAAng/QgAKQPET8zM/s1600-h/PresMonson.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PQ20a3fjz14/SOkJIWwAYJI/AAAAAAAAAng/QgAKQPET8zM/s200/PresMonson.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5253740479454929042" border="0" /></a>Now that may seem like a strange title of an essay.  What <a href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=338be5c45d19f010VgnVCM100000176f620aRCRD&amp;vgnextchannel=3e0511154963d010VgnVCM1000004e94610aRCRD">authority</a> could I possibly give to a prophet?  We believe and teach in <a href="http://www.lds.org/">our church</a> that prophets get their <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Authority">authority</a> from God.  In fact, the whole concept of authority to speak in the name of the Lord is a big deal in the <a href="http://www.lds.org/">LDS Church</a>.  I mean, if our claim to authority is bogus, as some say it is, then the <a href="http://www.mormon.org/">Mormon Church</a> is a fraud.</p>
<p>I have <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.blogspot.com/2008/03/authority-to-act-in-name-of-god.html">written previously</a> about our claim of authority to act in the name of God.  We teach that <a href="http://www.josephsmith.net/josephsmith/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=041579179acbff00VgnVCM1000001f5e340aRCRD">Joseph Smith</a> received multiple visits in his day from <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Angels">resurrected beings</a> who ordained him and gave him <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=ba805f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=54d2991a83d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;hideNav=1&amp;contentLocale=0">priesthood authority</a>. That’s an amazing claim in itself that has been contested since the day he made it but that’s not the type of authority I would like to address in this short essay.</p>
<p>We all have the type of authority I would like to discuss. It is not gender specific. Both men and women and even children possess this authority. We are born with it and we will take it with us into the next life. It is a great gift and one that I cherish dearly. I have used it for both good and bad throughout my life. So why would I agree to give it willingly to someone I have never met?</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">My authority is my agency</span></p>
<p>The more I learn about this church, the more and more impressed I have become with this gift of authority that is mine. If there is anything that I know more than anything else, it is that I can choose to believe whatever I want. Nobody can take that away from me. I don’t think anybody can form an argument that could convince me that I do not possess this ability. It is a part of me.</p>
<p>This authority to choose my own beliefs is something about which I feel very passionate. When I was younger I would do all kinds of stupid things in an effort to assert my authority and prove to others, mostly my parents, that this power was mine and mine alone. It is an amazing power. It can bring me great happiness or it can bring me great sorrow and it is all based on my beliefs.</p>
<p>In other words, I can choose to believe what I want to believe about what brings me happiness. I do not need some philosophical explanation to define <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=ba805f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=aec7991a83d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;hideNav=1&amp;contentLocale=0">happiness</a>. I know when I feel happy and I think I am getting pretty good after all these years of identifying which beliefs and actions are the cause and effect of my happiness. My power of choice is the authority I have over myself.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Giving my authority to another</span></p>
<p>Whenever I choose to believe something that someone else tells me, I give away a part of my authority or control over myself. That’s especially true if I can’t prove what they have told me. That may seem like a crazy thing to do. I guess it all has to do with the reliability of the source. We all do it. There are things we believe that we haven’t been able to prove and never will.</p>
<p>For example, in relation to my membership in the LDS Church, I believe things about <a href="http://www.lds.org/churchhistory/history">our history</a> for which I will never be able to obtain or provide empirical evidence.  I was not there when Joseph received the <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/First_Vision">visit from the Father and the Son</a>, nor was I there when he received the <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Moroni%2C_Visitations_of">visit from the angel Moroni</a>.  There were no witnesses to these events.  Yet, I choose to believe them.</p>
<p>I have given away a part of me – my intrinsic authority or <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=ba805f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=09db991a83d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;hideNav=1&amp;contentLocale=0">agency</a> – when I accept what I have been taught about these <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/History_of_the_Church">historical events</a> while growing up.  I believed what I was told because I trusted the source – <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.blogspot.com/2008/04/mother-who-knew.html">my parents</a>, my <a href="http://www.lds.org/pa/display/0,17884,4647-1,00.html">Primary</a> teacher, my <a href="http://www.lds.org/pa/display/0,17884,4648-1,00.html">Sunday school</a> teacher, my <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=ba805f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=54d2991a83d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;hideNav=1&amp;contentLocale=0">priesthood advisor</a>, my <a href="http://seminary.lds.org/">Seminary</a> and <a href="http://institute.lds.org/">Institute</a> teachers and just about anyone who taught me the gospel.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">The transfer of that authority</span></p>
<p>When I became an adult, I had to decide if I still intended to give my authority to others who represented the source of that knowledge. In particular, I had to decide if I would transfer that authority from teachers and parents, many of whom were now dead, to <a href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/background-information/leader-biographies">leaders of this church</a>.  I felt comfortable about that transfer of authority and have now placed it in <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Apostle">apostles</a> and <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=e1fa5f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=17e4991a83d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;hideNav=true#1">prophets</a>.</p>
<p>Most of the men who were the leaders of this church when I became an adult are now dead. So of course, that authority simply slid down the line with each new prophet until today, I place my trust in <a href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/background-information/leader-biographies/president-thomas-s-monson">President Thomas S. Monson</a> and in the other fourteen men who lead this church. I am no different from millions of others who have had to go through this same logical process.</p>
<p>Last night I sat in my <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Stake">stake center</a> with hundreds of my fellow brethren of the church and watched the broadcast of the priesthood session of <a href="http://www.lds.org/conference/display/0,5234,49-1,00.html">General Conference</a>. I listened very closely as each of these priesthood leaders spoke and weighed very carefully in my mind if what I was hearing was inspired of God and worthy of acceptance. As always, I was not disappointed. I was impressed.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">The current repository of my trust</span></p>
<p>Of course, all men are <a href="http://www.jefflindsay.com/fallible.shtml">fallible</a> and so are prophets. Individually, some of the early apostles left the church and some even fought against it, denying many things that they had previously taught as facts, or truth, to be falsehoods and lies. Hmmm…that presents a bit of a dilemma. Now who do I believe – those who remained or those who left and claimed the original leaders were liars?</p>
<p>Fortunately, that hasn’t happened in my day so I haven’t had to make this choice among living apostles and prophets. But what if it did – what would I do then? One of the teachings of our church is that the authority for doctrine is comprised in two quorums – the quorum of the <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/First_Presidency">First Presidency</a> and the <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Quorum_of_the_Twelve_Apostles">Quorum of the Twelve Apostles</a>.  I don’t have to rely on just one leader.</p>
<p>In my lifetime, I have witnessed <a href="http://www.lds.org/churchhistory/presidents/controllers/potcController.jsp?leader=13&amp;topic=facts">a prophet of the church</a> fail in mental health until he was simply incapacitated and could not act as the living mouthpiece or oracle of the Lord. That’s OK. I have <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.blogspot.com/2008/04/when-prophet-gets-alzheimers-disease.html">written about this previously</a> and explained there why I had no problem with this.  I am convinced that this church can survive even when the prophet has <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alzheimer%27s_disease">Alzheimer’s</a>.  That’s amazing!</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">The ultimate placement of my faith</span></p>
<p>A prophet wouldn’t be a prophet to me unless he leads me to <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=ba805f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=1710991a83d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;hideNav=1&amp;contentLocale=0">Christ</a>.  I look to these men to teach me about <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Jesus_Christ">the Savior</a> and how I can draw closer to Him.  We have a saying in our church that we repeat often &#8211; <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=f318118dd536c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=8a935991d66db010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;hideNav=1">follow the Brethren</a>.  We teach our children to sing the song – <a href="http://www.lds.org/churchmusic/detailmusicPlayer/index.html?searchlanguage=1&amp;searchcollection=2&amp;searchseqstart=110&amp;searchsubseqstart=%20&amp;searchseqend=110&amp;searchsubseqend=ZZZ">follow the Prophet</a>.  We do this because we have a tradition of confidence that these men will lead us unto Christ.</p>
<p>So ultimately, I give my authority and my <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Agency">agency</a> to <a href="http://jesuschrist.lds.org/SonOfGod/eng/">the Savior Jesus Chris</a>t as these men teach me to do. I like that. Of course, I haven’t seen the Savior or been personally visited or taught by Him. Although I believe it is possible if it were necessary, I don’t believe that I need to have to receive such a visit to exercise <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=ba805f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=013e991a83d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;hideNav=1&amp;contentLocale=0">faith</a> in Him.  In fact, it wouldn’t be <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Faith_in_Jesus_Christ">faith</a> if I had such a visit.</p>
<p>That’s why I am so grateful for the <a href="http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Gift_of_the_Holy_Ghost">gift of the Holy Ghost</a>. I think I would be lost without this special gift that teaches me truth and leads me to God. Now this is something with which I have personal experience and personal knowledge. It is not <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical">empirical</a> and never will be. That’s OK. It is very real to me and makes perfect sense. I know things in my heart that I can never prove.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Summary and conclusion</span></p>
<p>We all have a kind of personal power and authority that can only be used by giving it away to someone else.  We call it <a href="http://www.mormonwiki.com/Agency">agency</a>. In particular, we have the right, power and ability to choose to believe what we want. It is very important that we find trustworthy sources to whom we can look to teach us about God and Christ. God must be revealed to someone or remain unknown.</p>
<p>Since I haven’t seen God, I must rely on those who claim to have seen Him to teach me about Him. Of course, it is critical to my salvation to be certain that my sources are authorized to speak on behalf of God. We call these men prophets and I have been listening to them all weekend. God knows that this is a leap of faith to trust a prophet so he has given us <a href="http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/the-restoration-of-truth/how-can-i-know-this-is-true">a way to be certain</a>.</p>
<p>There is one wonderful piece of empirical evidence that God gave the prophet who brought forth the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. That evidence is <a href="http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/the-restoration-of-truth/the-book-of-mormon">the Book of Mormon</a>. To me, the whole process and procedure of knowing for myself is so logical. I am confident that I have given my authority to a trustworthy source and am grateful for the power this knowledge brings.</p>
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		<title>Authority to act in the name of God</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In point four from my anonymous objector, the issue of authority was raised as a reason why he feels that Mormons aren&#8217;t Christian. He wrote that Mormons believe &#8220;&#8230;[other churches] don&#8217;t have the authority to act in His name.&#8221; I &#8230; <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/authority-to-act-in-the-name-of-god/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PQ20a3fjz14/R-0r6D5ybeI/AAAAAAAAAZI/sEBtQ9VS3i0/s1600-h/ChristOrdainingApostles.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PQ20a3fjz14/R-0r6D5ybeI/AAAAAAAAAZI/sEBtQ9VS3i0/s200/ChristOrdainingApostles.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5182847022653402594" border="0" /></a>In <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.blogspot.com/2008/03/are-mormons-christians.html">point four from my anonymous objector</a>, the issue of authority was raised as a reason why he feels that Mormons aren&#8217;t Christian. He wrote that Mormons believe &#8220;&#8230;[other churches] don&#8217;t have the authority to act in His name.&#8221; I previously <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.blogspot.com/2008/03/only-true-and-living-church.html">wrote about the importance of authority</a> to act in the name of Christ, but perhaps it deserves another visit to make the response complete.</p>
<p>He pretty much nailed this one.  I confess, we do believe that there was an apostasy and that the keys of the priesthood were taken from the earth with the death of the early Apostles. Maybe it&#8217;s the naive Mormon in me coming out, but I find it hard to believe that this isn&#8217;t an important issue to other Christians.  I would hope that this is important to anyone who believes in baptism or priesthood ordination.</p>
<p>When our missionaries teach the doctrine of the apostasy to those who are investigating our church, they use <a href="http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/the-restoration-of-truth/the-great-apostasy#d">dialog that is carefully crafted to not offend</a>.  I am going to be blunt.  This is the most important difference between the LDS Church and other churches that claim to follow Jesus Christ.  It is this authority that gives power and vitality to the Mormon Church. A major focus of the message of the restoration is that angelic messengers ordained Joseph Smith.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;"><u>Authority from Christ is important</u></span></p>
<p>We proclaim that <a href="http://www.lds.org/">The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints</a> is the only church with the authority to administer the ordinances of salvation. That is a strong statement and a bold claim.  We are not hesitant in teaching to the world that we are the only source where you can receive baptism and other ordinances that are recognized by the Savior as being valid, authorized and efficacious in the world to come.</p>
<p>The Latter-day Saint view of authority as the divine right to preach, act in the name of God and direct the Lord’s church is distinctive from other Christian churches.  We do not believe in a continuous or unbroken line of authority from the early apostles. We also do not believe that authority can be found in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_inerrancy">inerrancy</a> of the Bible. Nor do we believe that one receives authority simply because of a sense of “calling” to the ministry.</p>
<p>While there is much truth in other churches, there is something missing.  We have that missing piece, which is the authority of the Priesthood.  We offer that same authority to all followers of Christ.  It is true that we do not confer the authority upon women.  We do not ordain women to be ministers in our church.  This is by direction and revelation from God and will not change.  With that authority we are confident that the ordinances we perform are recognized by God.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;"><u>Validity of religious experiences of others</u></span></p>
<p>The issue of authority has come up so many times in stories and articles about the Church that the Public Affairs department has dedicated an entire <a href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=338be5c45d19f010VgnVCM100000176f620aRCRD&amp;vgnextchannel=3e0511154963d010VgnVCM1000004e94610aRCRD">Newsroom article</a> to the subject. The piece focuses on acknowledging many good things about other Christian religions.  We do not dismiss or diminish the validity of other people’s religious experiences.  For example, you will find these statements there:</p>
<p>&#8220;Members of other churches who accept Jesus Christ and try to live by the principles he taught are entitled to divine guidance and inspiration in their lives. Faithful Christians who are not Latter-day Saints still go to heaven, and those who live according to all the truth and light they have will open themselves to further light in the hereafter.&#8221;</p>
<p>“Informed Latter-day Saints do not argue that historic Christianity lost all truth or became completely corrupt. The orthodox churches may have lost the ‘fullness’ of the gospel, but they did not lose all of it nor even most of it. Many Evangelicals caricature or overstate the actual LDS view, which is that the <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-style: italic;">orthodox churches are incomplete rather than corrupt</span>.”</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold;"><u>Summary and conclusion</u></span></p>
<p>I think it is our confidence in our position of authority that unnerves some of our Christian friends.  This confidence is often misunderstood as arrogance.  We do not mean to be offensive.  We do not mean to imply that others can not or do not have valid religious experiences.  But authority to act in the name of Jesus Christ is something about which I would want to be very sure.  Without that confidence, it is easy to dismiss the claims of others in speaking for God.</p>
<p>I was baptized by an ordained priest when I was eight years old.  I was ordained to the Aaronic priesthood when I was but twelve years of age.  I had the Melchizedek priesthood conferred upon me when I was nineteen, ordained an Elder and set apart as a missionary.  I was later ordained a High Priest and set apart in various priesthood leadership capacities in the Church.  I know from personal experience that there is something to this priesthood.  It is real.</p>
<p>Holding the priesthood and acting in the name of the Lord has blessed my life in so many ways.  It is a privilege for which I am deeply grateful.  Bearing the priesthood has shaped who I am.  Serving in the priesthood has taught me how important it is to be very careful how I act because I am a representative of Jesus Christ.  That is an awesome responsibility.  It is a marvelous blessing to be part of the large army of the priesthood spread throughout the earth today.</p>
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		<title>On what are you an authority?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Malone</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read a lot of blogs. Since I am a computer guy, a lot of them are technical. I know, boring stuff, but it pays the bills and I enjoy it. Many of them are political or news-related as I &#8230; <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.com/blog/index.php/on-what-are-you-an-authority/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mormontimes.com/"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5174353929799361410" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PQ20a3fjz14/R87_e_fWY4I/AAAAAAAAAWw/sMDkHn9b8Ao/s200/MormonTimes.jpg" border="0" /></a>I read a lot of blogs. Since I am a computer guy, a lot of them are technical. I know, boring stuff, but it pays the bills and I enjoy it. Many of them are political or news-related as I like to keep up with what&#8217;s going on in the world. They can be infuriating. But for the most part, I like to read religious blogs and visit websites where people post their religious views. I am grateful for good people who share their points of view about religious doctrine and practices. I find such writing to be thought-provoking and often refreshingly humorous or downright entertaining &#8211; see <a href="http://mormanity.blogspot.com/">Jeff Lindsay&#8217;s Mormanity blog</a> and his <a href="http://www.jefflindsay.com/">website (formally cracked planet)</a> for many great examples.</p>
<p>I especially appreciate good writers who express themselves civilly, and where opinions are shared with respect. I had someone comment on one of my posts the other day that demonstrates the annoying opposite. The post in question is on the subject of eternal marriage and in particular about the idea of <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.blogspot.com/2007/10/marriage-in-heaven-what-do-you-think.html"><span style="color:#ff0000;">marriage in heaven</span>.</a> This is a subject upon which many in the Christian world do not agree. It also happens to be one about which I feel very strongly. In my post I shared modern scriptures and quotes from general authorities on the subject.</p>
<p>This anonymous commenter wrote that Jesus taught that there was no marriage in heaven. He wrote, &#8220;<span style="color:#ff0000;">I KNEW my Mormon friends would freak</span>. Of course you disagree. After all, who is right? Jesus Christ or Joseph Smith? Smith of course. Hah. You have to rely on Doctrines and Covenants from the LDS church to believe that, and you have to ignore Jesus. What a joke. Come on, LDS people. This is just one more case where you choose to believe your church while saying God is wrong. God (Jesus) is not wrong.&#8221; Such a comment does not solicit good dialog.</p>
<p>I responded with an amicable reply and shared a little bit more about my beliefs in Eternal Marriage. But I surprised myself when my response turned more into a declaration of testimony, a defense of Joseph Smith and of the Book of Mormon. I found myself using the word &#8216;proclaim&#8217; and expressing something from my missionary days &#8211; that the Book of Mormon is a tangible witness of the calling and ministry of Joseph Smith. I concluded with a declaration of authority to administer ordinances. It seemed to fit perfectly with a post on Eternal Marriage.</p>
<p>I have been pondering this whole exchange. It is typical of so many that I read on the various religious blogs I visit. If you want to see this kind of exchange in action in its best form visit any news article on the <a href="http://deseretnews.com/home">Deseret News</a> or <a href="http://www.mormontimes.com/">Mormon Times</a> that has to do with the church. You will find comments from these kinds of individuals. Them seem to delight in making personal attacks instead of presenting scriptures or authoritative quotes to be discussed or even debated. I know that religion is a very personal thing but personal attacks seem to be an immature tactic.</p>
<p>To me it all boils down to authority. In discussing religious doctrine or practice, we can only be an authority on our personal experiences. We can study, memorize and &#8216;know&#8217; what others have taught on a specific subject, and thereby claim to be an authority, but in the end, we cannot be an authority on Joseph Smith, for example, because we did not live his life. Only he has that right. But we all have some knowledge that nobody can debate and with which they cannot argue. That knowledge is the sum of our own life&#8217;s experiences, especially religious ones.</p>
<p>One kind of personal experience that makes you an authority is personal revelation. Again, this is something that nobody else can ever take from you. If you have sought for and received a personal witness of some specific doctrine, then that is yours and can only be understood by others who have had a similar witness. It is possible that you can seek and receive a witness of things that are not publicly taught. There is nothing wrong with that but be careful how you share it. Sacred things can be easily misunderstood by those who have not experienced them.</p>
<p>What do you think? The Internet is a great way to share the gospel. We have been <a href="http://latterdaycommentary.blogspot.com/2007/12/sharing-gospel-using-new-media.html">invited by an apostle</a> to join in the dialog. Does commenting on religious blogs and other web sites with news or writings about the church help in that mission? Or is it just an invitation to an argument?</p>
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