I have been enjoying the dialog on Nate’s post, “The More Sure Word of Prophecy.” It has caused me to ponder the title phrase we often use to describe the sure feeling of knowing we have been sealed up unto eternal life, of knowing God’s love for us and His promise we shall come into His presence to dwell with Him forever. It is a sweet, peaceful, wonderful feeling.
Read Nate’s post for his comments on hearing the voice of God, and the importance of names, both of God and our own. Nate shares a personal experience in which he was called of the Lord, by his name. What a wonderful thing it is to realize the Lord knows you and knows your name. The idea of hearing the voice of God is found in Peter’s teachings, quoted here for reference:
2 Pet 1:16-21
“For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
“We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
The Promises are Available to All
As I pondered that other phrase, the Lord reminded me of a recent request from another reader to provide feedback on a chapter of his forthcoming book – no name yet – that deals with this very subject of having one’s calling and election made sure. This is not a phrase that we use much in or out of the LDS Church these days, but it was once understood more clearly than we do now.
Peter clearly understood. He used it in 2 Pet 1:10 – “…give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall…” Who wouldn’t want that kind of promise, to never fall? Obviously, we would want to desire and understand the requirements to receive such a promise, for how many of us have experienced the opposite feeling of failure?
It’s best to read the preceding verses to understand what Peter meant by “these things.” It’s a nice checklist, for those who like such things, of what we must do or to which we must give diligence in order to make our calling and election sure. These verses tell us what the calling is that we have been given, and helps us understand what it is that we elect to do to receive glory.
2 Pet 1:2-8
“Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
“And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
We Have Strayed From the Doctrine
We are called to glory and virtue. We elect to accept the calling when we do those things listed in these verses. This doctrine has been expounded by some of the great theologians of our day, such as Bruce R. McConkie, Marion G. Romney, LeGrand Richards and Joseph Fielding Smith. Actually, those were some of the theologians of my day. This doctrine isn’t taught much in the LDS Church any more. In fact, many LDS members consider it one of those mysteries to avoid.
Joseph Smith said the following about this doctrine in DHC 5:388-389: “Oh! I beseech you to go forward, go forward and make your calling and your election sure,” and “After a person has faith in Christ, repents of his sins, and is baptized for the remission of his sins, and receives the Holy Ghost, which is the first Comforter, then let him continue to humble himself before God, hungering and thirsting after righteousness, and living by every word of God, and the Lord will soon say unto him, Son, thou shalt be exalted.
“When the Lord has thoroughly proved him, and finds that the man is determined to serve Him at all hazards, then the man will find his calling and his election made sure, then it will be his privilege to receive the other Comforter, which the Lord hath promised the Saints,” and finally, “…I would exhort you to go on and continue to call upon God until you make your calling and election sure for yourselves, by obtaining this more sure word of prophecy.”
This Doctrine is Intended for All
One of the difficulties of those who advocate “Follow the Prophet,” is they may not believe they can obtain this blessing for themselves. I have heard them say such a blessing is reserved only for the fifteen men who lead the LDS Church. This is false. I’m not saying it is a simple thing to obtain this promise, but I am saying it can be done, even by the least of the Saints, of which I am one. Even though I have left the LDS Church, I am a follower of Jesus Christ, a Latter-day Saint.
Having one’s calling and election made sure is not the same as receiving the Second Comforter. It is also not the same as the Baptism of Fire and the Holy Ghost. It is not the same as accepting and taking advantage of the Atonement through repentance. It is actively seeking to do the will of the Lord, accepting every test, no matter how strange or unusual it may seem, and doing what the Lord asks. I have often shared my example of being asked by the Lord to quit my good job.
The Fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
Sometime between that test in February of this year and what I consider the most difficult test, being asked by the Lord to resign my membership in the LDS Church, I received the promise of having my calling and election made sure. I did not even realize it until recently. You may think it is some grand and glorious event, and for some, it may be. But for me, it was a simply a quiet whispering of the spirit, in a moment of prayer, confirming I had received the promised blessing.
A few years ago, I purchased a book entitled, “The Fulness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.” The author wished to remain anonymous and so used the name of Elliaison. You can still purchase the book at the website, www.elliaison.org. On page 60 and 61 is a very simple test one can use to determine if they have had their calling and election made sure. When I first took the test a few years ago, it was made clear to me I had not yet obtained the desired promise I sought.
Sacrifice Brings Forth the Blessings of Heaven
As I was reviewing my friend’s chapter on the subject for his forthcoming book, he referred to a post in LDSFF entitled, “The Fastest Way to Make Your Calling and Election Sure.” It was then I remembered the booklet I had purchased that includes the same instructions. As I picked it up, a voice whispered to me, “Tim, you don’t even need to do the test. You already know.” I did it anyway. I knew. I just didn’t know I knew until I confirmed it with the Lord through this test.
I thought back, seeking greater detail on when it had occurred so I could pinpoint what I had done to obtain the blessing. I concluded, both through pondering and by asking the Lord for confirmation that it was sometime after the last meeting with my Bishop on August 24th and the day I resigned from the LDS Church on September 13th. Those four days between the Mesa lecture on September 9th and the day I resigned on September 13th were agonizing for me.
Then Shall Thy Confidence Wax Strong…
One part of me was screaming out, “How can you possibly resign your membership in this church to which you have given so much over so many years?” On the other hand, the spirit of the Lord was rehearsing that scene over and over in my mind, “This day is this commandment renewed in your ears.” I knew the Lord wanted me to be baptized. I wasn’t going to try to hide it from anyone. If it was the right thing to do, then I intended to tell the world about it on my blog.
Once I realized I had obtained the promised blessing, my prayers took on greater confidence and meaning. The feeling of being a partner with God became stronger. My desire to counsel with Him in all my doings became more profound. I found His interest in my activities, my concerns and my desires to be more acute. Perhaps it was that I had become more sensitive to His feelings, which had always been there, just beyond my level of appreciation. Life became more fulfilling.
Let No Man Come Between You and God
When I was a member of the LDS Church I would have thought to myself, “You had better go and check this with the Bishop or some other person of authority in the Church.” I pondered why I had that desire and had lived with it for so many years. It is wrong. I realize that now. It kept me from trusting the Lord. It was offensive to the Lord. It kept Him from revealing more things to me. The Lord has given me a great blessing. No man can ever take that away from me now.
I was born of the spirit when I was seventeen. I received visions from the Lord at that same young age in which I saw my life unfold before me. I have witnessed the fulfillment of part of those visions. I do not doubt the other parts will come to pass in the near future. I have now obtained the promise of Eternal Life in which I rejoice. My calling and election is made sure. I am now engaged in obtaining the promise of receiving the Second Comforter. It can be done.
I am a Witness It Can be Done
Why am I sharing this? I share this because I searched for many years in my youth and early service in the LDS Church for others who had obtained the fulfillment of the Lord’s promises. Perhaps I didn’t know anybody who had received such blessings, they weren’t sharing them, or they weren’t happening. It could have been a combination of all three. I’m now aware of dozens who have made their calling and election sure. They have shared their stories with me in private.
I share my witness in public because that it what I have offered to the Lord – my blog – and He accepted. I hope if you read this and wonder if such a blessing can be obtained that you will think deeply and carefully about what the Lord requires. The whole process is one of proving trust. Can the Lord trust you? If He asks you to so something that goes against all you think is logical or reasonable and yet you KNOW it is from the Lord, how will you respond? Ponder it.
There is Always More to Obtain
I know I have hardly begun to scratch the surface of sealing my connection to Heaven. I know there is much more required of me. I desire to see the face of the Lord. I desire to enter into His presence in this life. I desire to embrace Him, to converse with Him face to face as one man converses with another. I know I have much to do to repent, to change and to do before I can obtain that blessing and other spiritual gifts the Lord has promised me. Promises motivate me.
I know the Lord cannot lie. I have heard His voice. It is real. He has declared His love for me. I have been consumed with His love on occasion. He has asked things of me I cannot share. Not because I don’t want to, but because I don’t have the words to explain. Any attempt would be meaningless. As a wise man has said on several occasions, “You can’t claim to be anybody until you have accomplished the work the Lord sent you here to do.” I am nobody. Follow Christ.
9 thoughts on “Calling and Election Made Sure”
Tim, your experience is so similar to mine. The quiet whispering in response to the 3 questions from the same Elliaison book. Waiting confidently – often impatiently – for the next promised gift. Have re-read Dan Rogers’ account of receiving the Second Comforter, I am examining sources of unbelief – seeking to root them out, and then ask the Lord to remove them.
Thank you! This was a spiritual feast. I know what you have shared is true. My brother was another person who had received the promos of exaltation and did not know what it meant until sometime later. I remember laughing with him about it.
So many people think it is so far beyond them to receive such a promise but chances are, if we have heard the Lords voice and received a remission of sins, that The Lord is more than willing to give us this promise when WE are ready.
You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned that we must be willing to follow Gods voice above anyone else’s. Which means we must know His voice. Thank you for having the faith to share for the edification of others.
Our experiences are very similar. I recently heard the Voice of the Lord. What a blessing it is. I was promised my calling and election ‘not many days hence’. I was told exactly how I was to receive it.
The Lord is again setting His Hand a second time to recover his people. I am honored to be associated with you, and all others like us, in this final labor.
God does speak to His children. We are nothing, He is everything. I will follow Him. ~ Sean
Tim, it never ceases to amaze me how similar our situation is. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. It is this faith which helps us come closer to the Lord. I like the insight and charge Denver Snuffer offered.
“There are those who have heard that their calling an election has been made sure. They have heard it as a witness to them from God. Don’t doubt the word of God given to you. However, don’t think for one moment that is the end of the matter. Remember that in the cases that we looked at before, one of the purposes of ascending up in the presence of the Father is to be endowed with knowledge, with light and truth and with intelligence, to possess a God-like mind, and a God-like understanding. Therefore, no matter what you receive, you ought to always search deeper and deeper into the mysteries of God. Indeed we are commanded to do so, as I reminded you in Boise, and won’t repeat again here. I’ve also read you previously, and won’t repeat it again here, Doctrine and Covenants section 1 verse 8 through 10. The sealing power manifested in an Aaronic setting, in which it is sealed up unto condemnation.”
I’m not sure this is the dialog to bring up this subject…. but I don’t know where else to examine this issue.
There are 7 Billion people in the world, not, to mention the millions who have lived on this planet and passed on, not having the opportunity for saving ordinances. 15 Million people in the LDS Church records, having been baptized by authority into Christ’s church. There are less than half of the membership of the Church who are active…. and probably half of those have had temple ordinances.
Now let’s take those who are considered the “Wheat” or “Awake”…..they who are searching and working for a direct connection with the Lord…. to have their calling and election made sure or who desire to see his face. How many would you say 1000, 2000?
With all this to be considered, it seems that very few have the opportunity to even contemplate having the experiences that some of you have had. Seems like a pretty small elite group of the children God. My question is…. Why You? Why do YOU have the opportunity to even be considered one of the “Chosen.”
In Conference, President Monson said, “we are 15 million strong” (I wondered if he was including all those who memberships have been removed or taken away.) If they have not been counted in this total, we must be having “HUGE” success in the field.
15 million, at best, is a puny number considering the masses. There are billions who don’t have the opportunity to be baptized by authority, let alone to have their calling and election made sure and see the face of the Lord in this life time. Again…. Why you? or Why me?
I’m having a bit of a struggle lately with the “Elite” factor in all of this. I went to Elliaison.org and was surprised there was a website for the “Spiritually Elite,” which makes me feel uncomfortable and discouraged. It seems like another opportunity to become prideful. From the “Prideful pot” of the Church to the “Prideful pot” of the Chosen.
I have not had the kinds of experiences some of you have had and I
struggle with my worthiness of even considering asking the Lord for anything special when I have not heard his voice let along the voice of the spirit in the manner that has been described on this and other blogs. Even though I am a life time member, I feel I’m 8 years old just learning how to pray. The heavens seem so far away.
Sorry to put a damper on this wonderful subject… but these questions and concerns have been whirling around in my mind for some time.
What say ye?
Thank you for this comment
Your prayers will be answered. Some prayers are stored in the ears of God for decades before an outpouring occurs. This is all part of the plan. Yes the website you mentioned sounds like people getting up on a rameumpton. There are millions of elect who know nothing concerning God or ordinances right now. God knows His sheep.
Worthiness is not an issue with you more than with anyone. No one can make themselves worthy. Only God can do that. Spiritual experiences are not a reward of ones righteousness or because they do anything.
Go to the website below and tell me that these people, who are not LDS are not experiencing the same baptism of fire (not all of them but some) that members of any Mormon movement are. Study the kundalini and tell me all of then are liars. (Some of them are). The church of the Lamb is not on the earth and when it is introduced God will gather His children by the millions! I know it.
Kathryn G Thank you for sharing your feelings on this matter. This is no ‘damper’ at all.
I feel much the same way you do. I can only speak for myself. I am nothing special and I’m certainly not ‘elite’ by any stretch of anyone’s imagination.
I have come to understand that God is absolutely no respecter of persons. He will do for you and me, exactly what He has done for others, under the exact same conditions. The charge to ‘seek and ye shall find, ask and ye shall receive’ is true. If we seek Him, we will find Him. If we ask, it will be given; if we don’t ask or seek, He is under no obligation to give. Don’t be afraid to ask, seek and trust in Him to deliver. I have wrestled for years in prayer before obtaining any promises from the Lord.
I, too, have contemplated the vast numbers of people past and present. I have no answers for you there. I trust God does.
Kathryn G Kathryn, I loved reading your comment. I, too, have noticed what you speak of. It is something we all need to be cautious of . I’ve also noticed a lot of resentment and contempt against the church that we need to get past. None of this – elitism or contempt – can be part of the formula. If it is, it is just like you say – one prideful pot into another.
Concerning your questions about the billions and billions vs. the few, or chosen. I have several comments:
1) This is a very unique time in the history of the world where more people than ever are less concerned with survival, and thus have more time to focus on spiritual things.
2) The Lord has said very clearly, “Many are called but few are chosen”. This is an established condition that we should expect to find
3) There might be a whole lot more who would be chosen, if they would seek, ask and knock. I am thankful for those trailblazers, including Elliaison, who saw these truths and had the courage and the love to share them, so that WE could hear. WE then had to have the purity of heart to seek, ask, and knock for ourselves.
4) I know the Lord will ultimately be merciful to mankind through his mercy to each individual child. I believe the judgment will ultimately be applied by asking each indivudual, “How much can I bless you?”
Of course, the Spirit of God has his work cut out for him in all this. He is busy assuring thousands every day that the testimony of those preaching “this gospel” in all the world, before the end comes, is true, that God has indeed sent down righteousness from heaven and sent forth truth out of the earth, to testify of his Only Begotten Son, his resurrection from the dead and the resurrection of all men.
At the same time, however, he is busy assuring those that have professed disbelief in the church that the Father promised he would establish for all those who believed that witness, that they might be numbered with his people, o house of Israel, that their calling and election has now been made sure to them, even though they are now publicly numbered with those who “fight against mount Zion.”
This perplexes Kathryn G to no end, and who can blame her? But I would say to her that, if she thinks this tiny, but growing seed of the kingdom is small now, with only 170 or so temples, she should think of Polly Knight, who died content that she was blessed to behold with her own eyes the promised land of Zion, before her death, shortly after arriving there.
At that time, the hedge was only just built, the vineyard’s twelve trees were not even planted yet, the Lord’s servants had not even started building the watchtower, let alone begun to dispute its worth among themselves, and still she rejoiced and blessed the name of the Lord, with all of her grateful heart.
Today, the enemy has come by night, broken down the hedge, and is about to break down the twelve olive trees, which the servants of the Lord planted long ago. Though the fruit of the trees may not be large in number at this point in time, compared to all the fruit of all the trees of the earth, yet the enemy desires to take upon himself the fruit of the Lord’s vineyard, and has come to destroy the works of his servants.
According to the word of the Lord, Kathryn G, the servants of the Lord are not awake, because they failed to keep his commandment to build the watch tower in the midst of the vineyard, which, had they built it, it would have enabled them to not have fallen asleep, but to have seen the enemy from afar and make ready, that his vineyard might not have fallen into the hands of the destroyer.
As it is, however, they will soon arise from their slumber and flee away in fear of the enemy, and the enemy will then break down the twelve trees and destroy all their works. What will you say then? What will you then answer the messengers of the nation? I’ll tell you what you shall answer:
That the Lord has founded Zion and the poor of his people shall trust in it.
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